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Can We Stop Approaching Homosexuality This Way?

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I’d like to talk to you about something—something I’ve been hesitant to discuss, but I also feel needs to be discussed. Only I just couldn’t figure out how. Until now, that is.

Anyways, here you have it:

Project Inspired loves everyone. EVERYONE.

Our site is meant to be a place that all can come to, and that includes people who are homosexual. Yes, the giant elephant in the room—homosexuals.

You see, there is an ongoing discussion that we’ve tuned into via our Facebook page, Girl Talk forum and other online spaces where folks are sounding off their thoughts about homosexuals. And to be honest, the conversation can be rather shocking, because we, as a society, don’t always know to approach it. On the other hand, it’s also not surprising, as Christians tend to be very polarized when it comes to homosexuality. So, how should we respond to our homosexual friends, or let me just say—our fellow sinners?

Well, for starters, we need to acknowledge that the church has not done a very good job providing guidance. For the most part, they have not led. Instead, they’ve chosen to avoid the question altogether.

And that’s not how you handle a situation.

What churches should be doing is:

  • Actually talking about it in youth groups, life groups, etc.
  • Finding ways to approach the subject with compassion.
  • Accepting homosexuals into their church without judgment.
  • Striving to really get at the heart of what judgment is.

After all, isn’t building a deeper understanding of ourselves and others an honorable aim, and one of the very reasons we attend church? Furthermore, isn’t it true that we’ve all fallen short of the glory of God and, as sinners, we’re all in need of our Creator’s forgiveness?

We are human, and all humans sin. Homosexuals sin, pastors sin, you sin, I sin. There is no standard that places homosexuality on a higher playing field of sin.

So, how should you handle a friend who is gay?

First and foremost, the worst thing you can do is simply announce that you are “against that.” What good does instantly putting up a guard against someone do? If they sense that you already have a preconceived notion of them, they will be reluctant to communicate openly and honestly with you.

Instead of closing doors, how about LISTENING? So, your friend is gay. Maybe listen to how they came to understand this. Maybe listen to them talk about how they are feeling. Try to avoid creating an air of hostility. They didn’t choose to share this very personal information with you to create a conflict. They have chosen to be communicative with you because they call you a friend, so be a friend. And sometimes, that can simply mean listening more, and talking less.

So what if you, as a Christian, are struggling with these thoughts yourself?

Believe it or not, there are members of our Project Inspired community who identify as homosexual. This is not a call out—just an observation that, given such a large a pool of readers, this is more than likely. Now, if that’s you, then you probably feel out of place. You probably feel very hurt. After all, Jesus calls us to love our neighbors as ourselves, and if you fear that your sexuality will be attacked then, surely, this isn’t a sign that we, as a community, are showing love.

For that, I simply want to say that I’m sorry.

I’m sorry you’ve felt pain. But know this: You are loved—unconditionally. I know that doesn’t rectify the countless negative comments you’ve had to endure, but it’s a start.

As for how you should feel about being gay and a Christian, let me be frank: That’s between you and God. I’m not going to say anything else. I’m am here to pray with you if you need me to. I’m here to pray for you if you need me to. Because I love you as you, and regardless of any preconceived notions, you are always a daughter of the King. I encourage you to find wisdom and comfort in the Word. I encourage you to seek a home at a church that accepts you for who you are. Get involved with mentors you can trust and talk about your feelings. If you’re proud of the way you are, good. And there’s nothing more to be said or done, because I feel that it’s simply not my place to say or do more.

As followers of Christ, we need to look at the big picture.

Is referring to homosexuals as “sinners” that have sinned beyond ourselves helping advance the Gospel? Or is it simply preventing the Gospel from being understood and embraced? Jesus never once said to judge people; in fact, he said quite the opposite. That’s because when we judge, we are devaluing that person and assuming we are superior humans. That’s exactly the message Jesus was trying NOT to convey in the Sermon on the Mount.

This article is really nothing groundbreaking; it’s also not the full picture. But we have to eliminate, bit by bit, this cultural divide we have otherwise avoided to make room for a true culture of acceptance. We need to answer tough questions in a way that Jesus would approve.

Now, I leave you with this point:

As Christians, we should recognize that it’s our mission to approach everyone with the mindset that they too were worth Jesus dying for. If we train ourselves to approach everyone, regardless of sexual orientation, in this way, I do believe our thought process will change. Slowly, perhaps—but it will change.

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  1. Thescriptureway

    Posted by Thescriptureway on May 13, 2016 at 18:32

    Scripture says homosexuality is a abomination – that’s final.

  2. Project Inspired

    Posted by Queerafrolatina on September 27, 2015 at 22:22

    Considering my father is both a pastor and a theologian, it is actually completely false to consider homosexuality a sin. I would elaborate on that but it’s not like anyone would even listen.

    I think the Bible is interpreted in relatively shallow ways, it read literally, which I think is wrong. If we read it so literally, do you realize how contradictory and hypocritical the Bible would be? I believe the Bible is a book that needs to be analyzed and approached in a number of different ways. Reading between the lines is key, and searching for an answer deeper within the texts that quite honestly don’t make sense 80% of the time. On another note, I believe in a God, but not the Bible. The Bible was man made, homosexuality is not a choice nor a lifestyle.

    Okay wow, lifestyle? Darn, I’m so gay I have to way up and put on my rainbow colored clothing and only eating rainbow colored items while occasionally throwing glitter on others. Yup, such a lifestyle.

    God makes no mistakes and made everyone in his image, homosexuality is not(and has been proven not to be) a choice, you are born gay. That is it, and that is to be celebrated. If God made no mistakes then I’m not sure how homosexuality is a sin, because that seems like a mistake to me. Just going to put that out there.

    Ready for rage comments honestly. Don’t really care either way.

  3. princessoftheking_

    Posted by princessoftheking_ on June 8, 2015 at 18:44

    I agree with this article 100%! I think people get caught up in the idea that homosexuality is somehow worse than any other sin. God sees sin. God sees the thing that separates us from Him. As sinners, we shouldn’t cast people away for being homosexual, God’s love is just what they might need! We have no place in their relationship with God. I remember reading the Scarlet Letter this year and someone in the book said “Who are you to cut off a sinners relationship with God?” This isn’t a direct quote since I can’t remember the exact words, but it has the right idea lol! I am so pleased with the open-mindedness and loving nature of this article. God bless you, the world needs more people like you.

  4. Lily2017

    Posted by Lily2017 on June 4, 2015 at 21:49

    As much as I would like to agree with your article 100% I disagree with some proportions. Yes we should love our brothers and sisters that God has created all the same. “Love thy neighbor as yourself”. However, there is a thin line between love and pleasing others. In today’s world, Christians must begin observing what is happening all around us with not just a worldy view, but a Godly view. In 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 ( Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away). Gods definition of love is very clear. Love is patient and kind. Love does not try to push others into thinking how one thinks. Love isn’t supposed to be pushed or force, it is supposed to come from God and to come naturally. ALSO love isn’t supposed to rejoice at wrongdoing. We all can definitely classify wrongdoing as sin. If we truly love someone, we will not turn a blind eye to what they do wrong but rather confront them on their wrongdoings. HOWEVER, we can not do this in a bashful or “arrogant and rude” way. That’s not love. BUT by showing others what our one main source of love, God. Now I am not saying to go around to people who sin and yell at them and tell them that God frowns on what they are doing. NOOO I am just trying to point out that we as a church need to figure out how to approach these topics without pretending they do not exist. If a friend struggling with sin comes to you and asks your opinion. Tell. Them. What. God. Says. Don’t try to be all “well I mean you know” and get all uncomfortable. No! Especially if your friend isn’t of faith this is like your once in a life time chance to share God’s word with someone who probably will not see it again for a LONG time. Now I am not just talking homosexuality but every other sin as well. Christians struggle with sin. No Christian is perfect on this Earth. So don’t think you are. 2 Corinthians 13:5 says to examine ourselves first. How can you tell someone that what they are doing is wrong if you are doing it yourself? I don’t know about you, but that sounds a little hypocritical. Neverless the point of this whole wide rant! When coming into situations like this remind yourself that you can not view everything in this world through your eyes. You can not define love by what others of this world tell you. God is the way, the truth, and the light. So to call yourself a Christian you must be with the way, the truth, and the light. I am not perfect. I sin. I am working hard to become stronger through Christ. However, it strikes me in the chest when we don’t try to share God’s brilliant word with others. Know, that with sharing the word some people aren’t gonna like it. God predicted this in John 15:18-21. We musn’t be scared however. For if we are scared to go out and share God’s word we are conforming to the world. 1 John 2:15-17 “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours. But all these things they will do to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me.

    If you took time to read this… Thank you because I know it was super long XDXD
    Also if anyone feels I have misinterpreted something PLEASE tell me because as I have said, I am not perfect XD! Have a blessed day!

    • SlowlySwimmingBack2Shore

      Posted by SlowlySwimmingBack2Shore on October 23, 2015 at 02:11

      I was literally waiting for someone to come out and say this. I like the article, but like you said it’s not entirely true. As Christians we need to be welcoming, not accepting! The Bible is God’s word, therefore if the Bible says “mankind shall not lay with mankind as with womankind,” Then God himself is telling us (Christians) to warn homosexuals (and all non-believers) of their sins.

    • Lily2017

      Posted by Lily2017 on June 4, 2015 at 21:53

      OOPS! I reversed those two scriptures 1 John 15-:21 states “Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world. And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever. ”

      1 John 2:15-17 states ““If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours. But all these things they will do to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me.

      hehe I apologize

  5. Project Inspired

    Posted by VC on May 31, 2015 at 23:04

    Ok, here’s the thing- People have to stop saying that Christians are ‘judging’ them. There is actually a HUGE difference between judging someone and disagreeing with someone. Judging means that you hate on and try to shun someone as best you can. Disagreeing means that you just have a different take on how they live their life. For instance, one of my best friends came out to me about a month ago. Both of us claim to be Christians. I lovingly told her that I disagreed with her life style choice because of the Bible and personal reasons, but that doesn’t mean that we still can’t be friends! I’m not “judging” her at all. We just happen to have different stances on things in life. We’re still very good friends. I still love her to pieces. That’s not ‘hateful’ or ‘judging’ is it? You can “disagree” with someone and still be friends. 🙂

    • Leftie

      Posted by Leftie on January 13, 2017 at 23:07

      It’s not a lifestyle or a choice. You are a toxic, unloving friend.

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by BrittBear16 on June 26, 2015 at 10:36

      I just want to say that while you didn’t judge your friend and that there is a difference there are many Christians who do judge homosexuals and its wrong. I mean look at Westboro church.. They are supposedly Christians but they are judgeful and hateful. And not just them, but many other people as well.
      Good on you for not judging her I’m sure she was very happy you didn’t.

  6. Nicolemariev

    Posted by Nicolemariev on May 26, 2015 at 11:45

    As Richie Righteous says, if you were born that way, you can be born again.

    We are called to speak the truth in love–homosexuality is a sin, but God still adores the people who partake in it, the same way He loves the rest of us who sin. He wants them in His kingdom, too. We are all called to deny ourselves and take up our cross and follow Jesus. People in the pew struggle with denying themselves, I imagine it must be even more difficult for the homosexual who feels estranged from God. We are to lovingly welcome homosexuals with open arms and not be easily shocked or scandalized. We all have skeletons in our closets. As these people seek God, read His word (the whole Word, not trail mix), fellowship with other believers, pray and worship, God will give them the grace to turn away from their sins. They may never struggle with those longings again–or they may struggle with them for the rest of their lives. In the end, what’s going to matter most is the choices we make. Alcoholics can testify that even though some have never touched a drink again in their lives after coming to Christ, others feel tempted almost every day to touch the bottle. It’s different for all of us. But yeah.

    Check out an event The Whosoevers did called “Coming Out” (there should be a youtube video for it…let me see if I can link it here.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=995hRim7pX8 ) It’s raw, honest, compassionate, and it features 2 young adult Christians who came out of that lifestyle. Their testimonies are amazing.

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by elizey7 on July 5, 2015 at 11:21

      If you were born that way, God made you that way. Personally, I find that beautiful, because it proves that God made us in his image, but that we are all unique in our own way. We don’t all think the same, we definitely don’t all look the same, but we all have one thing in common: God. Why the need to be born again just because you are homosexual?

      • Project Inspired

        Posted by Queerafrolatina on September 27, 2015 at 22:11

        I have grown a liking to your responses, although I’m not quite sure where you stand.

  7. Project Inspired

    Posted by kristaaaaaa on May 25, 2015 at 21:44

    I agreed with this article until I kept reading. I am all for loving people regardless of their sin, but to embrace their sin is a different story. I’m sure I have fallen short of how I could love and accept homosexuals, and God has helped me change my heart to be more loving. The intentions of this article may be good, but I do not believe this article’s message lines up with the Bible.

  8. Lovely Mistakes

    Posted by Lovely Mistakes on May 19, 2015 at 16:39

    Ladies I think we all need to realize that homosexuality isn’t just a sin, but some ones sexuality, and your sexuality defines who you are in a lot of ways, in fact it is who you are in a lot of ways, so be careful when telling them to stop sinning as its like asking to stop them from being them.

  9. PrettyMonkey55

    Posted by PrettyMonkey55 on May 7, 2015 at 15:22

    First off i just want to thank you for this article:) I have some friends who say they are homosexual, and have been coming to my youth group for a decent amount of time now. My one friend, has been coming longer than the other, and he was serious about it because i know he had a boyfriend. But, since then he’s come to the AG youth convention, and gone up to the altar several times. And i’ve realized that it’s started to bug me when i hear some of his other friends say that he’s gay, when he’s had a change of heart. Now i know that was not really needed, 😛 but because of them still calling him gay, i’ve come to think that it’s wrong to claim it. That they’ve been bullied and they just put up that facade. Yea, this is also in the comments, but, anyone who can answer, or has an opinion on this, please answer. Do you think that’s good/bad to not want to claim it? or like i’m imposing? (i’m kinda confusing myself, but would love input:))

    • Moira Linn

      Posted by Moira Linn on May 31, 2015 at 14:42

      I’d say if you’re gay, you’re born that way. It’s not any more normal to be straight, and it’s wrong to think of being straight as being default. Just because he’s coming to church and being a good Christian isn’t going to make him magically straight, and yeah, you’re kinda imposing. You don’t get to change your sexuality, it’s hardwired into you.

      • Faithgirl14

        Posted by Faithgirl14 on May 6, 2017 at 18:03

        I agree with you. Because of sin, the sin or hardwired thing we have in us is in us because of sin nature. I’m not saying that everyone has to be a Christian, God has given everyone free will to choose what they want to do or to be who they are.

        I think what the people were implying in the earlier comments is that if a Homosexual wants to be a Christian they will be changed by the power of Holy Spirit. I don’t think that God created people to be be stealers, liars, cheaters, or any other sin.

        I love everyone as they are and I’m not trying to change anyone from this comment.

        When we become Christians, if we want the love of God will change us to be who he wants us to be. That doesn’t mean that He changes our personalities, it just means that the sin that we have doesn’t define us now. He has washed away our sins through Jesus Christ and the thoughts or feelings that we have to do certain things will start to change as we read the Bible and pray.

        Trust me please, this is NOT a hate comment. Jesus loves everyone and hopes that everyone can be with him in heaven for eternity. John 3:16-17- “16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son that whoever believes in will not die but have eternal life.” “17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.”

        With love, Faithgirl14
        😘😘😘👍👍👍👍❤❤❤❤❤🤗☺☺☺☺☺

      • Project Inspired

        Posted by elizey7 on August 23, 2015 at 09:27

        Thank you!! I’m not the only one who thinks this way!!

  10. Micahraerae

    Posted by Micahraerae on May 5, 2015 at 11:11

    I agree that we should love them and not treat them differently, because we are all sinners, but if, say, your friend was stealing, what would you do? Would you let them keep sinning? Now, I’m not judging, because I sin everyday, and I recognize that I sin. I try not to sin. I ask God to help me not to sin. So, should we not encourage our fellow sinners to try to do right? Or should we just let them keep sinning because it’s not our place to help our fiends? Jesus said:
    “What comes out of you is what defiles you. For from within, out of your hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile you. (TNIV, Mark 7:20-23)” plus didn’t God, in the beginning, make woman for man because she completes him?” And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.” (‭Genesis‬ ‭2‬:‭21-24‬ KJV) and the OTHER THING “So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”” (‭Genesis‬ ‭1‬:‭27-28‬ NIV). One last thing, one time a kid asked my biology teacher what he thought, and he said to look at it genetically, two of the same gender cannot produce together.

    • rbeckman0

      Posted by rbeckman0 on June 29, 2015 at 13:36

      I agree because though homosexuality is a lifestyle, so are lots of other sins. People are all born with sinful lifestyles, but we cannot tell them that living those lifestyles is okay. Ans even though it doesn’t make sense why homosexuality is a sin, as Christians we are simply called to follow Christ, and by doin that, we should agree with the rules and commands that he sets forth and try our best to live a life true to him.

    • Moira Linn

      Posted by Moira Linn on May 31, 2015 at 14:46

      Ohh boy. This again. God made man and woman because a man and a woman can reproduce, this is true. But if you observe different species, homosexuality is seen in literally every known species on earth, and it usually happens when a population of animals begins to reach carrying capacity, a sort of birth control for the species, as it were. It’s not something you choose, or something you can change. It is what it is.

      • martial_artist_for_Jesus

        Posted by martial_artist_for_Jesus on August 24, 2015 at 19:17

        One thing I must point out to you: We are human. Not animals. Human. There is a very clear distinction between humans and animals. Not to say animals haven’t done some very cool things, but that doesn’t mean we are animals. (Name me one animal, for instance, that has built a building like the Empire State Building. Just one.) God created us above them, in His Own Image (see beginning of Genesis). If an animal displays a certain tendency, does that make it OK for a person? No, not necessarily. Animals are animals. They cannot reason within themselves between right and wrong, though I do agree they possess feelings and a connection w/ people at times. They do not know, therefore, what they are doing is wrong– humans, on the other hand, do.

      • Lily2017

        Posted by Lily2017 on June 4, 2015 at 21:30

        I feel like @MicahrRaeRae is trying to say is in accordance to what he believes, which is in God and God’s word. When reading the bible God tells us many things that he says are wrong and many things that he says are right. We are all sinners and we all struggle with something in our lives that we are every day in a spiritual warfare to conquer. Yes the bible does state that homosexuality is a sin. Therefore, in correspondence with God and God’s word, it is VERY reasonable for a person of faith to believe in everything He says. Yes, there are studies which show animals that exhibit homosexual behaviors. Yet, God never once stated his conflictions with animals sexuality. MicahRaeRae pointed out Genesis 1:27-28 which states that we as mankind are to increase the earth abundantly. God never intended for depopulation or population control. He wants his creations, man and woman, to multiply and populate our world with the people he has created. I don’t mean to target you but rather to defend what MicahRaeRae expressed in different terms. As for my views on the topic of this article. I have nothing against homosexuals or other sinners for I sin myself. I don’t hate sinners. I hate the sin. If you took your time to read this thank you and have a blessed day!

  11. Project Inspired

    Posted by Rom@ns116 on May 1, 2015 at 11:00

    We were made to be courageous
    We were made to lead the way
    We could be the generation that could finally break the chains

    We were warriors on the front lines standing unafraid
    Now were watchers on the side lines while our families slip away
    Where are you men of courage?
    You were made for so much more
    Let the pounding of our hearts cry out
    We will serve the Lord

    Seek Justice Love Mercy walk humbly with your God

    In the war of the mind I will make my stand
    In the battle of the heart, In the battle of the hands

  12. Project Inspired

    Posted by bookworm98 on April 29, 2015 at 14:50

    While I do agree that homosexuals get treated wrongly, saying we should accept their life style is not the way to go about it. Go read Romans 1:26-28 (I’m not going to post it because it is too long to type) and you will see that God said it’s wrong. With that being said, the bible also says to love our neighbor as ourselves, which would include the LGBT community. We are suppose to love everyone no matter what but that doesn’t mean we support everyone no matter what. There is a difference. Can a homosexuals claim to be a Christian and still go to heaven? To be honest, I don’t know how to answer that. What I do know is this: being in open sin against God means you can’t get into heaven. We all sin and we all will/have fallen short of the glory of God but when we confess out sin to Him, He is quick to forgive us. 🙂 God will forgive EVERYONE, no matter the sin, when they ask for it. He will forgive a gossip, a murder, a liar, a thief, a person full of pride, and He’ll forgive a homosexual. I’ve seen His forgiveness first hand and have to have it everyday. I’ve seen God change my life and I’ve seen Him change homosexuals lives. 🙂 God bless each of you! ♡

  13. Project Inspired

    Posted by elizey7 on April 27, 2015 at 12:57

    Can we stop referring to homosexuality as a sin? These people literally cannot control who they are because they are born this way. It has been proven through many biological investigations with members of the LGBT communities and their genetic variations. It is not their fault for being this way. If it is a choice to be gay, then explain why the option has NEVER entered my mind?

    • martial_artist_for_Jesus

      Posted by martial_artist_for_Jesus on August 23, 2015 at 14:40

      “Born that way”? Sorry, God, science and I all beg to differ.

      https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/for-the-first-time-a-majority-of-americans-believe-homosexuals-are-born-tha

      Read the whole thing.

    • JayshJane13

      Posted by JayshJane13 on May 6, 2015 at 05:13

      At church, we lead them to sinners prayer..

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by blueyedblondiegirl on April 29, 2015 at 14:26

      No we cannot stop because if you are christian you are grounded in the word and the word firmly states in many places that being homosexual is a sin Romans 1 :22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

      24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

      26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

      28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
      Nowhere has it been proven that they’re born that way, it is proven that they develop this, yes but not born that way. See Romans says that God gave them over to a depraved mind. So their whole mind is turned upside down. This notion has not entered your mind because Satan is trying different tactics with you because everybody is different.

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by JazyyJazz14 on April 29, 2015 at 13:48

      Science is also trying to prove how murders are apparently born with a “murder gene.” People will always find ways to prove what they believe should be accepted. As far as for it being a choice, well that thought ALWAYS entered my mind, but i CHOSE to NOT go down that math. I have had relations with girls, but I CHOSE to not be that way. So yes, being gay or lesbian is a choice.

      • Project Inspired

        Posted by elizey7 on July 5, 2015 at 11:12

        This allows those people to use the insanity plea, and who is to say that they were not truly insane the moment that they committed the crime? If they were not insane but were believed when they plead insanity, that is on their conscience and no one else’s that they lied.

  14. martial_artist_for_Jesus

    Posted by martial_artist_for_Jesus on April 18, 2015 at 06:14

    I agree w/ most of the girls that have commented– we should not condone their sin, yet love them as friends and fellow human beings. I speak with experience in this department, sort of, because I have a friend who claims she’s bi. I made it clear to her that I didn’t condone or agree with her ideas, lifestyle, or actions when it came to things like that, but that I still cared about her as a person and as a friend. And guess what? She was COMPLETELY cool with it! 🙂 In fact, when an acquaintance started bashing my faith a bit, she actually stood up for me, saying, “Don’t go hating on her beliefs!”, which kinda surprised me, but still. Dave, I agree with most of what you said, up to when you wrote, “If you’re proud of the way you are, GOOD.” (sorry, keyboard doesn’t have italicized stuff on here…), at which the Holy Spirit flashing a red-warning flag inside me. Like others have already said, you want to love them because they’re people too– but please, don’t encourage them to sin. Thank you for understanding.

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by elizey7 on July 5, 2015 at 11:15

      Remind me why homosexuality is a lifestyle? Do you think they can stop being homosexual? Even if they were to remain celibate in their actions, homosexuality is further defined by one’s sexual preferences. They do not have a choice. If something is a part of your lifestyle, you have a choice to include or exclude it, such as with alcohol, marijuana or other drugs, and cigarettes. Homosexuality is not a lifestyle.

      • martial_artist_for_Jesus

        Posted by martial_artist_for_Jesus on August 24, 2015 at 19:20

        Also, to be fair, you pretty much called it s choice yourself when you said it was a “sexual PREFERENCE”. A preference means you prefer, you CHOOSE, something over another. So, in your own words, in your own way, you have indirectly declared homosexuality to be a choice. Just sayin’.

      • martial_artist_for_Jesus

        Posted by martial_artist_for_Jesus on August 23, 2015 at 14:14

        Hi, Miss Elizabeth,
        Yes, it is a choice…. and choices can effect our lifestyles.
        Exhibit A: The Garden of Eden. Everything was beautifully perfect in every way, until man and woman CHOSE, deliberately, to sin against God. BOOM…. everything changed. In addition, their choice to live their lives differently also affected their children, and their children’s response to God’s perfect ways (aka Cain’s MURDER of Abel), because although they were brought up one way, they still CHOSE to obey or disobey God.
        Likewise, we also have choices in our lives. I’ve heard of many homosexuals CHOOSING to “come out of the closet”, for instance. However, I’ve also heard many, many stories of redemption from former homosexuals who got saved and realized what they were doing was wrong, if you won’t take my word for it, then take theirs:

        https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ex-gay-homosexuality-is-just-another-human-brokenness

        (same goes w/ transgendered people, BTW)
        I believe there is redemption for those people, every bit as I believe there is redemption for other kinds of sinners; no one is perfect. Turning to God and away from homosexuality is a choice, too. (for those who disagree, go ahead, call me ignorant, etc…. IDC, and besides, Jesus once said that those who insult believers are directly insulting Him. So, fair warning. )

        Please realize I’m saying this outta love, and not to be deliberately derogatory. I also want you to know (if you don’t already know) about a PI girl on here, a while back… she was… aherm… less than polite… about interacting with others, and often got very disrespectful with them. I think they (the PI team) dealt w/ her though; because I rarely see her now. I just don’t want you to go down that same road; please don’t try to be disrespectful and pick fights. Thank you.

        God bless, and have a good one! 🙂

  15. MyMakersDaughter189

    Posted by MyMakersDaughter189 on April 18, 2015 at 04:46

    Before you start reading this, I want you to know, I’m saying all of this out of love. I mean to help and not hinder. I too, like any human being, struggle with sins, but I have found redemption through Christ and would love the same for all of you.

    I’ve seen people saying things like “homosexuals can’t help how they feel, that’s just how they were born”. This is FAR from the truth. Any sinner can overcome their sin with God’s help. It may seem hard, but you have to do it if you claim you’re a Christian. 1 Corinthians 10:13 says, “No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.” Therefore, no matter what sin it is, any human being can overcome it when they have accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior. If this weren’t true a murderer could say, “Sorry I killed that man, I couldn’t help it, that’s just who I am.” A thief could say, “Sorry I robbed that bank, I couldn’t help it, that’s just who I am.” A liar could (which we all are at times) say, “Sorry I lied to you, I couldn’t help it, that’s just who I am.” Of course someone could help their sin. There is no sin too great, that with God’s help, you couldn’t overcome. Jesus died on the cross for these very sins, so that He could help us overcome them, and he who loves Jesus and accepts Him into his heart will live eternally with God in Heaven. (John 3:16). So therefore, a homosexual could help their feelings that they feel for the same sex, just as an adulterer could overcome their feelings for another person that is not their spouse.
    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 states, “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” This verse clearly states that no sinner is worthy of the Kingdom of the Lord. But the next verse in the scripture states, “And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” Also see 1 John 1:9, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” God is a loving Father who will forgive any sinner that is truly sorry for their sins and confesses them to Him. As Christians we should be pointing out our sins to one another and helping each other overcome them and come to repentance and salvation in the Lord. Hebrews 3:13 says, “But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called “Today,” so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness.” Therefore, Christians should lovingly be helping one another in their spiritual warfare.
    As you see, homosexuality is not just a way someone was born, nor is it a greater or smaller sin than any other. In Psalm 51:4-6, David pleads to God, “You’re the One I’ve violated, and you’ve seen it all, seen the full extent of my evil. You have all the facts before you; whatever you decide about me is fair. I’ve been out of step with you for a long time, in the wrong since before I was born. What you’re after is truth from the inside out. Enter me, then; conceive a new, true life.” We are all born sinners, but no one was born a murder, a liar, a homosexual, a their, etc. We’ve all just been born with the inclination to sin as Romans 5:12 says. But we can be reborn in righteousness through the death of Christ.
    Jesus says in John 16:33, “In this godless world you will continue to experience difficulties. But take heart! I’ve conquered the world.” So keep your faith in Christ the Lord and remember He will never stop seeking you out or loving you. For through Christ you can do all things. (Philippians 4:13)
    Matthew 28:19-20, “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

    • cowlover

      Posted by cowlover on June 2, 2015 at 20:57

      I totally agree with you! Sometimes I think Christians don’t understand what the Bible says about this issue and so they think it’s okay to condone homosexuality. Of course we love homosexuals, just like we love everyone else. I love how you compare it to other sins, because that’s how it is in the Bible. It’s always listed with the other sins. No sin is greater or lesser than another. And I think people forget that sometimes. So thanks. I know that yours and my view on this subject is often ridiculed and condemned, so I appreciate your courage in posting this. 🙂

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by JazyyJazz14 on April 29, 2015 at 13:51

      Yes! Thank you!! Overall, when we have a question about something we should ALWAYS refer to the Bible. Homosexuality is a sin and it is a choice, however we still love the sinner either way. For LOVE is the greatest commandment and we as Christians cannot really be CHRIST like unless we love. It does not say to “accept,” but to love. Loving someone also does not mean that you have to be BFF’s with them, but you do have to respect them, be kind, caring, and etc.

      • Project Inspired

        Posted by elizey7 on July 5, 2015 at 21:52

        How is it a choice? Sure one can choose to be celibate if one is homosexual, however one cannot necessarily control how they think in certain situations, such as dreaming while they are asleep. Sexual preferences do not change once the individual has exhibited the same behavior for at least two years, according to MANY psychological studies that have been deemed credible by the APA (American Psychological Association)

      • MyMakersDaughter189

        Posted by MyMakersDaughter189 on May 12, 2015 at 12:45

        You sum it up well 🙂

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by choschar92 on April 22, 2015 at 10:53

      Your words are so true!! I love all the Scriptures you referenced throughout your post, grace and truth together! You are right on in what you are saying and I absolutely agree with you! Thanks for posting this!

  16. marysetrueblood

    Posted by marysetrueblood on April 13, 2015 at 18:31

    Hi, Mr. Hermann.
    I’m not overly familiar with you or your articles, to my knowledge, but I want to thank you for this post. I’m a young lesbian, and a weird duck in many an aspect of my personality beyond that, and I want to thank you for handling this all with such maturity and open-mindedness and urging discussion, because honestly, no one benefits from silence. Not myself and other LGBT+ people, and not straight people who don’t get us. I’m entirely tired of being “The Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name,” and would like to feel safe talking more often in life, and I’m glad leaders like yourself are opening and encouraging safe, mature discussion. I don’t know if you’re pro-gay rights or not, but for now, it doesn’t matter. I’m just glad you’re not sweeping us under the rug, that’s a good step.
    Thanks,
    Kate.

  17. Project Inspired

    Posted by Romayn on April 12, 2015 at 21:02

    Hey Dave,
    Thanks for the post.I’ve been really struggling with this issue for awhile. No knows this but I also deal with same-sex attraction ( I’m not gay) from time to time. It’s even harder to hold on to Christ’s teachings while admiring a very attractive woman and address this with non-believers.

    Right now, I don’t have any hope for humanity. No offense to anyone, but if you know you did something wrong and you refuse to acknowledge it, that’s your problem. I used feel that way about homosexuality until Jackie Hill Perry came along. She’s a P4CM (Passion 4 Christ Movement ) poet who gave her testimony about her life as a former lesbian. She serves as a reminder that there’s hope for LGBTQ Community. I suggest to everyone to check her out. As much I would love to see everyone including homosexuals come to Christ, some people prefer to make their own path in life and that something we may have to accept.

  18. Project Inspired

    Posted by mcristale2 on April 9, 2015 at 11:36

    Thank you. So much. For posting this, for believing in this, for standing by this. I have had the most difficult time figuring out if God still loved me and accepted me even if I had come to the realization that I am gay. I have had the most difficult time going on this site and reading its contents because I no longer felt like I deserved to, or that I had a right to. Thank you so, so much, Nicole. I humbly appreciate that PI doesn’t shun or encourage others to hate or fight against those who have a different sexual preference than they do, because at the end of the day, that’s all that it is. This post helped and made a difference in me. I can allow myself to open up to God again, and to remember that He loves me AND accepts me, in any shape or form. Thank you. Thank you so, so much.

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by JazyyJazz14 on April 29, 2015 at 13:56

      Of course JESUS still loves you, that is exactly why He died for you and I. He did not say, “I am only going to love the part of the world that is not gay, a murderer, a liar, etc.” No! It says, “For GOD so loved the world!” The whole entire world. You may be gay or whatever, but that increases GOD’s love for you even more, I believe. He wants you to stay with Him and follow His path. Pray to be the person GOD has called you to be.
      “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.” Galations 2:20

      Listen to His voice above all! Not you voice! HIS voice! Not your thoughts! His thoughts! GOD has a special plan and purpose for each of us. Keep your head high and GOD bless!! 😀

    • PI_Dave

      Posted by PI_Dave on April 13, 2015 at 10:30

      God bless you Maria! Keep praying, keep your eyes on Him and Him alone.

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by Precioustime22 on April 10, 2015 at 15:07

      Your comment was the best one I’ve read on this post. Thank you for trusting in God and being strong. Thank you not judging Christians as judgmental and spiteful towards gay people even if we do sometimes. I am so grateful there are people who love God as much as you do and stand up for your worth and the love God gives to everyone. Your comment made me smile. 🙂

  19. Crossed1996

    Posted by Crossed1996 on April 9, 2015 at 11:16

    I agree that we should love everyone, no matter what. The thing is there are a few things I’ve learned about this topic that I think need to be addressed and weren’t.

    1) To have attractions to the same gender in itself is not sinful, it is the temptation.

    2) To act on same-gender attractions is the sin, much like it is sinful to act on temptations to act impurely towards the opposite gender.

    3) The terms homosexual, gay, etc. become labels, that send false messages that same-gender attractions make you who you are, but it shouldn’t be someone’s defining characteristic. We should be encouraging people to become the best version of themselves, not putting limits on them as labels do.

    4) While not always the case, many people who experience same-gender attractions have been wounded at some point emotionally when they were young, often in the situation of a distant parent of the same gender, (resulting in a situation where they felt they weren’t a manly enough man or a feminine enough woman.)

    Just some extra tidbits of information to consider. http://WWW.ChastityProject.com is a wonderful resource for more on this topic.

    • totustuus

      Posted by totustuus on May 18, 2015 at 06:32

      This is exactly what I think! (I’m pretty sure it’s exactly what the Church (the Catholic Church) thinks too.) Thanks so much for sharing! (and also I love Chastity Project too, their books are great!)

  20. CandyBar

    Posted by CandyBar on April 9, 2015 at 06:05

    So this is a Christian site, right? Then why are we talking about all man’s ideas. God talks a lot about homosexuality, and yet not one scripture verse is mentioned. That’s the first problem I have with this article. The second problem I have is, and I am quoting “If you’re proud of the way you are, good. And there’s nothing more to be said or done, because I feel that it’s simply not my place to say or do more.” He is talking to Christian’s on the forum. The bible does not say it is not our place to do more when talking to believers.
    Mathew 18:15-17 15 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
    Here are some ore references on the subject: 1 Corinthians 5:1-13, Romans 16:17-18.
    So with that being said, this is for people who have believed on Jesus Christ for salvation and are still struggling with this sin. It is a sin.
    Leviticus 18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.
    Romans 1:26, 32 (read the whole passage starting at vs.18)26 Because of this, God gave them over to their own shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27IN the same way men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their sins. 32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such thing deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
    Also see: 1 Cor. 6:9-11, 1 Timothy 1:10-11.
    These are the words of God, telling those who are homosexuals that they are in sin. As a sister in Christ I urge those of you who claim Christ, admit your sin to God, and let Christ’s blood cleanse you. I know (and although in a different area, I know personally) how hard the struggle with sexual sin is. But just like Joseph did when he left his coat with the woman who wanted him, you need to flee it. As a sister in Christ, I know God’s blood is more powerful than your desires. I know it is more fulfilling, too.
    To those who condone homosexuality. Read the end of the verse 32. God doesn’t want sin to be approved. Christ loved sinners, he ate with tax collectors, and during dinner he didn’t tell them they were okay because everyone sins, and that God still loved them. He told them to stop sinning, and go to him. That is what we need to do as Christians, follow Christ’s example. STOP CONDONING SIN AND POINT TO THE CROSS. We spend so much time telling people it’s okay to sin, that we don’t even talk about the gift of salvation anymore.
    And finally, to the non-Christian homosexuals. I can’t expect you to live like a Christian without God. Yes, you are sinning, but why shouldn’t you? You have no power not to because you haven’t accepted Christ as savior, and he holds the only power over sin. So I beg you to look for God, to try to find him. Read Mathew, Mark, Luke or John, and then read Romans. God’s word can condemn you for all your insults to him quicker than I can. God’s word can also bring you grace. I know no greater joy being with God and feeling his holiness.

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by Rachelinaa on April 17, 2015 at 10:53

      Amen to this comment! thank you for sharing such truth!

    • Wallyandartemisforever

      Posted by Wallyandartemisforever on April 16, 2015 at 14:22

      Yes yes yes YES I could not have said it better myself. When I clicked on this article, that was exactly what I expected to see: Hate the sin, Love the sinner. Because, of course we should all love one another no matter what because we ‘re all sinners and we’re all equal, and I understand what Dave Herrmann was trying to say about accepting one another, etc., but as Amara said, just because we love someone, doesn’t mean we have to SUPPORT their sin. I have friends who smoke, get drunk and worse, but I still LOVE THEM. And they still love me with all my (MANY) imperfections and that is how we all should be with everyone. But just because I love them does NOT in any way mean I support what they are doing and how they are living their lives, and they know this. They know that I am here for them, no matter what choices they make and I will always love them, and I will support THEM but not what they are DOING. So, yeah, I kinda expected more out of this article but I feel like Alicia just cleared it up so perfectly and so it’s all good. I love all of you and God bless ^^

    • Amarah

      Posted by Amarah on April 14, 2015 at 06:50

      How exactly on point. Yes, we all have to love one another despite our sins. We even have to love our enemies. But there is a huge difference between LOVING and ACCEPTING/SUPPORTING. We as Christians should NOT support sin. We should NOT be content in our sinly state but try to become better people in Christ. Theres an element where you must accept your sin in order to move on but why would a true Christian be content in sin? I am not content in my sin because i know it does not please God, and that hurts. Even continuing in my sin causes me to die inwardly. Id much rather be delivered and overcome my sins with God’s help. Why is this topic so sensitive? If someone with extreme same-sex attraction is offended by others calling that a sin, and yet he is still proud of it, why does he get so deffensive? If I know something is right and God has shown it to me, I dont care what others say, I will hold to what God has told me and not be shaken. Only God’s truth cannot be shaken, but all sin can be easily shaken. I think we need to go to the real issue here. First, the Bible talks alot about adultry and sexual sin. Yes, this pertains to “straight” people too. The Bible and God clearly portray the message that adultry is evil. It also says that marriage is between a man and a woman. So that’s the Bible’s take on it. Those of you reading this who are struggling with this sin, (i have struggled with thoughts of adultry also) I encourage you to just go to God. Sit in His silence and ask Him, “Lord, is this a sin? Are these thoughts I have in need of correction?” And Let God be the Light of your Path.

      Dont get me wrong. I may have come off pretty strong here but in the end, I am doing my best to love all people. I will not support my sins, their sins, or anyones sin, but I am trying to love all people. I am trying to help others with their sins, and I want others to help with my sin. But the above writing is what I have heard from God and what I believe. I will stand by this message, even if it is not particularly liked or supported.
      Amarah

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by Emilycatherine on April 13, 2015 at 09:37

      Whooo! Completely agree with everything you said. I was disappointed with this article too. Very refreshing to read your comment

    • godsgal17

      Posted by godsgal17 on April 10, 2015 at 08:03

      Wow, that was a great way of putting it. I totally agree that we should completely keep in mind what the Bible teaches about homosexuality and it’s sinful nature. As difficult as it is, we should love the sinner and hate the sin. And if it is possible, we should work to help those tempted with homosexuality, and lovingly try to help them overcome their cross and achieve the peace and joy which comes with living in accordance with God’s teachings and the Bible. Thank you for all those scripture references too! It’s really important to be familiar with the Bible so you can easily reference it to others!

    • jnotemusic14

      Posted by jnotemusic14 on April 9, 2015 at 18:29

      Totally agree. Very similar to what I said, and most of the same verses, too! Glad to see I’m not the only one who sees it that way. 🙂

    • Revolutionary24

      Posted by Revolutionary24 on April 9, 2015 at 10:36

      I completely and utterly agree. It’s refreshing to hear someone else with the same viewpoint I have.

      “STOP CONDONING SIN AND POINT TO THE CROSS. We spend so much time telling people it’s okay to sin, that we don’t even talk about the gift of salvation anymore.”

      So true!

      • PI_Dave

        Posted by PI_Dave on April 13, 2015 at 10:34

        To clarify my point in this article, I could condemn and point to scripture. Does Project Inspired recognize that being homosexual is a sin, yes. Does Project Inspired also recognize that no sin is greater than another, yes. The point of this article was how to approach the subject. It wasn’t meant as pointing out that homosexuality is in fact a sin as mentioned in Scripture. We all have fallen short, we all need Christ. We just think there are better ways to point people to Christ than to point our fingers and say “sinner.” Love your input though, this is really the point. Opening up a discussion! Sorry for the late reply too!

  21. Project Inspired

    Posted by Precioustime22 on April 8, 2015 at 21:57

    Christians have such a bad rep when discussing homosexuality because we are wayyyy too judgmental towards people who have a sexual orientation we don’t understand. It really bugs me when people who claim to be Christians do this. Having a homosexual orientation is not a choice. Nobody chooses if we want to like guys or girls, it’s one part of us that everyone is born with. Sexual orientation is only one part of a person. It’s not fair to classify someone based on one small part of them and it’s not okay to judge anyone/point out someone else’s sin. That is between them and God.

    • jnotemusic14

      Posted by jnotemusic14 on April 9, 2015 at 18:40

      I don’t believe there is any scientific proof that people are “born homosexual”. In fact, there was a study done on two identical twins to see whether or not homosexuality was genetic. One twin was homosexual and one was not. Both had the same genes. Here’s the link if you want to check it out; http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/identical-twin-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic

      And I could say the same thing about adultery. A married man could find someone attractive that wasn’t his wife and “fall in love with her”, and he could say “well, I can’t choose who I love” but that doesn’t make it right or acceptable. Same thing with pedophiles. They can’t choose who they love, right? So why is it not okay for them to love children but it’s okay for a man to love another man, or a woman to love another woman? You should also look at some of the scriptures CandyBar and I posted about this topic of judging everyone always brings up all the time. there’s a difference between righteous judging and the judging of man.

      • Project Inspired

        Posted by hillaryelise on April 12, 2015 at 22:57

        Jnote, please, if you’re going to try and bring up scientific proof don’t cite a bogus study sourced from redflag news. They are a propaganda site, they are not a credible news source, and they pluck their stories from extremist tabloids.
        And comparing homosexuality to pedophilia is a really awful thing to do. Homosexual relationships are between two equals. Both people make the decision to love each other, just as straight people do. On the other hand, pedophilia is between an adult in control and a child who is naive and in a position of vulnerability. It is an abuse of power.
        Did you “choose” to be heterosexual?

      • Project Inspired

        Posted by Precioustime22 on April 10, 2015 at 14:55

        Your judgment is right in your own eyes. Being “right” is subjective. Ok, first of all, your comparing homosexual feelings to committing adultery and they don’t even connect. Committing adultery is a conscious CHOICE being attracted to someone is not necessarily a choice. Let me ask you this: Since when have you ever, or anyone else, have ever chosen to like guys? For me personally, I never really thought about it because it’s a part of me, just like it’s a part of them to like the same-gender. And besides that, someone’s sexual orientation is one part of them. Just like someone’s skin color is one part of them. Rejecting someone because of their homosexuality is wrong. Let God do the judging.

  22. doodlez58

    Posted by doodlez58 on April 8, 2015 at 14:29

    HI! I struggle with this a lot. People are saying it is right to be gay, because you are who you are. I don’t know if God intended for people to be gay. people say that they were “born that way” but if God didn’t intend for people to be born gay, then why is it? I think that most of my questions would be answered if I knew what God said about it, because I don’t want to form my opinion based on our culture, wich is obvioiusly mixed. Does anyone know is there is a verse about this in the bible? P.S. I DO NOT INTEND FOR THIS COMMENT TO BE OFFENCIVE. I understand that this is a very sensitive issue for some people and I do not want to upset anyone.

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by Precioustime22 on April 9, 2015 at 21:22

      Hi! Your question is good one. A lot of people think that homosexuality is sin or something you can simply dismiss if you try hard enough. I completely disagree but here’s why: The feelings themselves are not sinful just like having a crush on someone is not sinful, however, I think acting upon it is considered to be sinful (but ultimately I’m not the judge). God doesn’t make mistakes. People who are born homosexual are not mistakes because they too are uniquely designed for with purpose like everyone else. God created EVERYONE. He didn’t create homosexual people just to mess with their brain and limit them.The belief that God creates and then excludes and rejects a group of people because of one factor, isn’t the God that I know. I don’t believe God is cruel in this way towards anyone. With that being said, there are a lot of things I don’t understand. I don’t understand and see the things the ways He sees them and it’s a mystery to me. But I believe in God’s purpose for everything He creates. Hope this helps! 🙂

      • doodlez58

        Posted by doodlez58 on April 10, 2015 at 17:30

        OK, this is super interesting. I do not mean this in a mean way, I am just curious… do you believe people were born homosexual? its fine if you do, but that is interesting. because my take on it was, God doesn’t make mistakes, so God couldn’t accidentally make someone who was meant to me a man, a woman. but if I wasn’t mistaken, your view was that God doesn’t make mistakes, so if someone was meant to be homosexual, that couldn’t be a mistake. I am interested please respond. 🙂

    • Autumnlover

      Posted by Autumnlover on April 9, 2015 at 13:29

      When I say this it is in love. You are my sister in christ and I love you. God did not create us this way. He didn’t create us to be gay. This is a result of living in a fallen and sin cursed world. God created us women to be a help mate to man. Genesis 2:20-24. Maybe you struggle with this sin so that you can lean on God’s help and strength that he so willing gives so that you can overcome it and be witness to people who struggle with this same sin. You asked for some bible verses, here are some, Leviticus 18:22 you shall not lie with a male as with women; it is an abomination. Romans 1:24-27 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the man likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. Please understand that I am saying this in love. This is a sin and God can’t stand sin because he is a holy God. That is why Christ did for us. If we believe in Christ God looks at us and sees Christ’s sacrifice. However, because we the Holy Spirit living in us we are a living temple for Christ. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within in you, whom you have from God? You are not your own , for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body. Gave this struggle to God. If you ever need some one to talk to, I’m here for you and I’m praying for you,

      • doodlez58

        Posted by doodlez58 on April 10, 2015 at 17:26

        Thank you for praying for me, but I just want to clear something up, I am most definitely not gay. thank you so much for the verses. those help a lot. 🙂

    • Graceey

      Posted by Graceey on April 9, 2015 at 03:52

      Check out Romans 1:24 – 32
      I’ve personally been struggling with this myself but God’s Word pretty much says it clear. It goes against how God created us, therefore goes against God Himself. But, remember, all sin goes against God and we all struggle with different things. We are not here as christian brothers and sisters to judge eachother for our shortcomings but to build eachother up and help eachother to overcome obstacles that are keeping us from God.

      “24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

      26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

      28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.” Romans 1:24-32 (NIV)

  23. carolinereinhart1

    Posted by carolinereinhart1 on April 8, 2015 at 14:28

    Dave, I totally agree that we should have understanding for homosexuals. They live in a very lonely world and need friends to be with them. However, I do not think that it is a good idea to ENCOURAGE their sexuality. There are many Bible verses that make it very clear that homosexuality is wrong and to suggest otherwise wouldn’t be correct. Here’s the way I see you should approach the issue:
    First off, don’t make your whole relationship about their sexuality. They are people with interests, families, and hobbies. Homosexuality shouldn’t be the only thing you discuss.
    Second, if someone is harassing a LGBTQ+ person, say something. Gays do not deserve to be treated like trash. Defend them as you would any friend, they deserve that much.
    Thirdly, if the discussion does come up, make it clear that you don’t agree, but in a loving way. Maybe say something like, “Well, I don’t agree that homosexuality is okay, but that doesn’t mean that I hate you,” or, “You’re my friend, so I respect and care about you. I don’t condone your sexuality because the Bible doesn’t and I don’t want to see you suffer because of your feelings. However, I don’t control you and it’s not my place to judge, so I’m not going to let it come between us.”
    Those are just examples, but you see my point. To me, homosexuality is like smoking or drinking. You shouldn’t practice it, you shouldn’t encourage it, but you shouldn’t judge people who do. A lot of the time, people who smoke or drink are suffering from a lot of problems and need a shoulder to cry on every so often. Same for LGBTQ’s. In conclusion, love and agreement are two very separate things.

    • PI_Dave

      Posted by PI_Dave on April 13, 2015 at 10:38

      Love this! Thanks Caroline for your input. I’d like to clarify, I’m not encouraging anyone. In fact, I’m simply telling them it’s not my place to judge you even though I call it a sin, if you think different that’s ok. But, I want to make sure to make this point. I’d explain AFTER listening why I think it’s a sin, but that I sin too. We tend to make homosexuality into a bigger sin, there is no bigger sin. Sin is sin, that’s my viewpoint.

    • Titi

      Posted by Titi on April 8, 2015 at 23:12

      This is the best response (that I have read so far) that deals with what the Bible says and how God expects us to treat them. God calls us to love all people but hate sin. Jesus never hated the sinner (the people) – he even ate with them and called us his friends – but he hated their sins (wrong behaviors/actions etc). We are called to be Christ like. Thus, this article fails to deal with this topic based on Biblical evidence, which is unfortunate. My advice to everyone, is let us all dig deep in the word of God , the truth, because it is the truth that will set us free.

      • carolinereinhart1

        Posted by carolinereinhart1 on April 9, 2015 at 10:54

        Thank you, Titi, I appreciate that. I just think that it’s a shame how society says, “If you love someone, you have to agree with them.” I fail to see the logic there.

      • Revolutionary24

        Posted by Revolutionary24 on April 9, 2015 at 10:39

        So true!

  24. rainbowuni

    Posted by rainbowuni on April 8, 2015 at 13:56

    I just want to say that, though I probably disagree with most people here on this topic, I think this article was very well written and handled the topic wonderfully.

  25. woshigusta

    Posted by woshigusta on April 8, 2015 at 13:15

    Love this article, it really conveys something awesome.

  26. lizzie-97

    Posted by lizzie-97 on April 8, 2015 at 12:28

    I think I understand what you are trying to say in this article, but I’m not sure I agree with it…. We are all sinners that need Jesus death and resurrection for eternal life. We all struggle with different sins, say I struggle with jealousy but for the other Christian girl down the street, she may struggle with lustful thoughts. She is not any better than me and I am not any better than her. People with feelings for their sex can choose to give way to those feelings, or to fight them with God’s grace and help. Homosexuality is a sin and not something to be taken lightly. You cannot be a practicing homosexual and be a converted child of God. Its just like any other sin. For example, you cannot be a Christian while robbing stores and kidnapping children. The same applies to homosexuality. I am very aware that many people struggle with feelings for their gender, but they do have a choice. A choice to follow God’s plan for marriage and relationships, or a choice to live in sin.

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by Precioustime22 on April 9, 2015 at 21:28

      I don’t think a person can control if they are homosexual or not but they can control how they act. The feelings themselves I don’t think are sinful because they’re basically just having a crush. And having a crush on someone, whether you are gay or not isn’t necessarily sinful. Just my view. 🙂

    • jnotemusic14

      Posted by jnotemusic14 on April 9, 2015 at 19:11

      Thank you, Lizzie. This is very well written, and it is true that people have the ability to choose not to sin, no matter how hard it is.

    • Revolutionary24

      Posted by Revolutionary24 on April 9, 2015 at 10:45

      I couldn’t have said it better myself. You cannot practice this lifestyle and call yourself a Christian. It’s contradicting almost like a Hindu who preaches Christianity.Doesn’t make sense.

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by JesusFreak3278 on April 9, 2015 at 07:57

      I see your point and I understand where you’re coming from. But I don’t agree with it. Are you saying that just because you are a sinner and do “worse” sins than others you can’t also be a Christian? Because you have to remember that all sins are equal in God’s eyes. So someone who kidnaps and murders a child is just ad bad as someone who lies to their parents in God’s eyes. But you’re saying that someone who is gay or who steals or kidnaps cannot also be a Christian. In essence, that would be like saying that someone who lies to their mom can’t be a Christian because they sin, or someone who is addicted to pornography can’t be a Christian because that’s a “really bad” sin. So I believe that if someone is gay, they CAN be a Christian. They struggle with homosexual feelings. You struggle with jealousy. Someone else struggles with porn and lust. Someone else struggles with honesty. Its all the same in God’s eyes, so who are we, as Christians, to judge? We are not called to judge – we are called to show love and kindness and acceptance.

      • Favourchichi

        Posted by Favourchichi on April 12, 2015 at 15:44

        Homosexuality is no more a greater sin than a “white” lie. However, for people to identify themselves as being gay and to continue living that life without seeking God’s power to turn their desires around is wrong. To be a drunkard without wanting to see it as sin is wrong. To be an addict and not wanting to believe it’s wrong is a sin. You know why Jesus sat down with sinners? Because they were willing for Jesus to restore their lives, ACKNOWLEDGING that they are indeed wrong in their ways. I’m addicted to sweets which is really bad but I am surenderring my addiction unto him that his Grace will carry me through and break my addiction one day at a time. There is nothing wrong with someone who considers themselves as homosexual but knows that it’s wrong and wants God to break that behavior in their lives, in which they seek counseling, prayer, and BELIEVE that God is working his magnificent power in their life. But to acknowledge that you are gay without wanting to believe that it’s wrong and/or refusing to want change, you are identifying yourself in sin not Christ. Yes Jesus does love everyone but people have to choose whether to put EVERYTHING aside for him and take his hand knowing your life is in his hands, or choose to believe you can live a life without him and alone.
        Jesus said:
        “Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.” Luke‬ ‭13‬:‭24‬

  27. lilyworshipsongs

    Posted by lilyworshipsongs on April 8, 2015 at 12:05

    Finally! I’ve been saying and practising this for almost a year now. You wouldn’t believe how many people who used to be in the church I’ve heard about who came out as gay or whatever else only to be berated with hate or have everyone ignore them, even those they were once close to. It’s not showing Jesus. It’s seeing someone wounded and yelling at them for being wounded. You’re supposed to help them in love and kindness.

  28. gracers122

    Posted by gracers122 on April 8, 2015 at 11:39

    Thank you for not being like so many churches in America today and just avoiding the issue. This was one of the most eloquently written, beautiful articles I’ve ever seen written about this subject. Thank you for having the courage to post this. God bless <3

  29. Project Inspired

    Posted by RiseGirl on April 8, 2015 at 11:36

    I agree with most of this. In fact, I strive not to talk about this issue anymore because I have 2 gay friends and a family member. I’ve changed my views a whole lot since way back when.

    However, let’s ignore this issue for a second. Instead of using the word homosexuals I’m going to requote you

    “k: That’s between you and God. I’m not going to say anything else. I’m am here to pray with you if you need me to. I’m here to pray for you if you need me to. Because I love you as you, and regardless of any preconceived notions, you are always a daughter of the King. I encourage you to find wisdom and comfort in the Word. I encourage you to seek a home at a church that accepts you for who you are. Get involved with mentors you can trust and talk about your feelings. If you’re proud of the way you are, good. And there’s nothing more to be said or done, because I feel that it’s simply not my place to say or do more.”

    Take that quote and apply that to everyone in the Church. The Church wouldnt be the Church if we taught a feel good, do whatever attitude. Let everyone come, accept them, love them, yes. But we ARE responsible for teaching the truth and correcting, in love. Jesus ate with sinners and He loves us, but He also calls out when need be. Homosexuals DO get called out way more than need be, way more than everyone else. Divorce especially seems to get ignored. Everyone sins and no one is better than another, however that doesnt mean we shouldnt strive to be all that we can, and shouldnt try to help our fellow brothers/sisters in Christ. That’s all I’m saying. But I do agree with the overall point of this, and Christians need to love better and not pick what to call out and what to ignore. We need to stand up in truth in ALL matters. But understanding the difference between judgment and teaching is in order.

    • PI_Dave

      Posted by PI_Dave on April 13, 2015 at 10:40

      Kathryn, thank you for your comment. I’m not saying we shouldn’t correct someone. I’m saying we need to do less talking and more listening before we get to the nitty gritty.

  30. amckay

    Posted by amckay on April 8, 2015 at 11:25

    I’m not sure what PI means by “the church”, because that makes it sound as if we are all under the same exact church, and that’s very untrue. My church has done a great job of emphasizing loving everyone, including the LGB group! I agree that they should get the same respect as everyone else, but I disagree that all churches are doing a bad job. To be quite frank, I (as well as others) are a bit tired of PI pretending it’s a church itself. Girltalk forums would be more appropriately served as questions about other things, because right now I am feeling as if PI is overgeneralizing most things and missing those of us who believe differently.

    • PI_Dave

      Posted by PI_Dave on April 13, 2015 at 10:43

      I use the word church to describe a broader Christianity. In no way is PI becoming like a church. That’s not our mission or purpose. Our purpose is to empower and inspire Christian young women to live as Christ lived. I’m sorry you feel that way.

  31. Trinity

    Posted by Trinity on April 8, 2015 at 11:16

    Thank you so much for this article. Seriously. Thank you thank you thank you thank you and God bless. As a queer Christian this article was truly beautiful. I read through expecting a ‘hate the sin, love the sinner’ message, and when you got to the part about how someone should feel about being gay and Christian I was like ‘oh here it is’ and then was pleasantly surprised when it wasn’t. As someone who has been there (even before I recognized my identity) I would also encourage you to read the Bible and study the subject before formulating your opinion. I’m not saying this so you’ll come to my opinion (though I wouldn’t be surprised if you did), but because a lot of Christians who oppose homosexuality don’t actually know why they do or what’s wrong with it. Instead of relying on the opinion your parents or your church gave you, identify the passages specific to homosexuality. Study them. Read books and watch youtube videos on them. Pray on them. Look at them in context of the environment, surrounding verses, and who the author (not God but the human who was writing the words) was. This is something I did before coming to the belief that I can be both queer and a faithful follower of Christ. Once again, thank you for this message and thank God for giving you the words.

    • carolinereinhart1

      Posted by carolinereinhart1 on April 19, 2015 at 19:00

      Hi, Trinity. First of all, I would like to apologize for any harassment you have received in life for being homosexual. I understand how it must have made you feel very inside, being treated so horribly. I do not condone such hateful actions. Second of all, I would like to say that we do not choose our temptations and struggles, they are brought before us by Satan and made positive by Christ. On a personal level, the devil has cursed me with a serious brain tumor. I am awaiting Christ’s restoration and healing, should He choose that is the best path. Otherwise, I am waiting for his strength, as it is something in which I lack. Thirdly, you are right. Homosexuality is not always about lust, it is about feelings for another person. However, with that in mind, even if you do not lust a married person, is it right to have a romantic feeling for them? I feel like that is coveting, but I might be totally wrong about that, so ignore it if you wish.
      Anyway, I would like to discuss your comment to jnotemusic14. Something about it really bugged me. Not trying to be rude here, just wanted to point them out. Let me know if I offended you and how, but I want to make something clear.
      As far as Christ not saying anything about homosexuality, I do not recall him uttering a word about child molestation, but I doubt it is something He is alright with it. I also disagree with your statement about Paul condoning slavery. That is quite the opposite of the truth. If you read the book of Philemon, it is a letter from Paul to a slave owner about one of his slaves. This slave ran away and managed to meet Paul, who lead him to redemption. Later, Paul sent the slave back to his master because he ran away, even though the circumstances were unjust. However, Paul also sent the master, who happened to be a Christian, a letter that requested that he not punish the slave, but rather accept him as a brother of Christ. Furthermore, I encourage you to read 1 Timothy 1: 9-11, where Paul calls out slave trading as well as other things I believe that you would agree are wrong.
      I am not going to say that I am better than you in terms of sin. I AM FLAWED!!. Whatever you decide about your sexuality, I will not judge as that is not my right. I personally do not agree that it is morally correct, but I do acknowledge that is a difficult thing to endure and that it requires a lot of strength just to get through each day when dealing with it. However, I can not stay silent about about God’s word being misinterpreted. It is a pet peeve of mine and I speak against it when I can. I hope you understand and I apologize if I came off too strong. The last thing you need is more hurt in your life.

      • carolinereinhart1

        Posted by carolinereinhart1 on April 19, 2015 at 19:01

        I know I put something like that up before, it’s just important to me. Sorry for the redundancy!

  32. Project Inspired

    Posted by pretty10 on April 7, 2015 at 18:06

    I am truly sorry for everyone that’s ever been hurt or judged for being gay. Dave can I ask you a personal question, I want to email it to the email Nicole gave me last time (when I won a prize). I don’t want my question to hurt anyone’s feelings.

  33. Smylinggirl

    Posted by Smylinggirl on April 7, 2015 at 17:48

    Here is how Jesus handled the “sinners” of His culture (by sinners, I mean the people like the woman caught in adultery and the woman at the well): He loved them and at the same time hated and condemned their SIN! He told them “Go and sin no more”. We can love someone while telling them that something is wrong. And I think we should. I agree with this article that many people go about dealing with homosexuality the wrong way. Thank you very much.

    • jnotemusic14

      Posted by jnotemusic14 on April 8, 2015 at 11:30

      I completely agree. In fact, he even called one of his closest friends and disciples whom he loved, Simon Peter, Satan in Matthew 16:23;

      “Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

  34. Aryandil

    Posted by Aryandil on April 7, 2015 at 15:09

    Thank you! I’ve been waiting for someone to say this for a while, but apparently no one in the community gets it.

  35. mynameisrobin

    Posted by mynameisrobin on April 7, 2015 at 13:49

    This post is interesting. I think it’s true, that we shouldn’t attack homosexuals, or talk about them. They are human beings, and should be treated as human beings. I have some friends who are bisexual as well.

    Yes, the bible does speak against homosexuality in Leviticus 20:13 and in Romans 1:26 – 27. However, this doesn’t mean we’re to ostracize them. It’s clear that God doesn’t tolerate homosexuality, but the best thing we can do is pray that God will save them and work on their hearts.

    • jnotemusic14

      Posted by jnotemusic14 on April 8, 2015 at 11:42

      Yes, we shouldn’t ostracize them. But there is no reason we shouldn’t tell them that they are wrong. If you truly loved someone, you would tell them that they are in danger of consequences for doing wrong. For example, if one of your close friends came to you and told you he was going to rob a bank or shoot up a theater, would you just sit there and politely smile and say, “Well, hopefully God changes his heart so he won’t do that.” No! You would warn them and plead with them not to do it, because it is wrong and they would face major consequences. It is the same way with people who are sinning. Even Jesus himself told people to “go and sin no more.” (John 8:11).

      God uses his people to get to others. Examples of this would be Moses; God used him to tell pharaoh to let his people go. Jonah; God used him to preach in the cities. Paul; God used him to preach to many, MANY people and he repeatedly said to repent and turn away from sin. There are many others, of course, but God in the same way uses us to keep our fellow Christian friends accountable. Now, it would be different if they were an unbeliever, because we are to treat them differently, but it says we are to tell our fellow brothers and sisters of Christ when they are sinning;

      Matthew 18:15-17
      “If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.”

      • tmgaouette

        Posted by tmgaouette on April 9, 2015 at 11:37

        Well written, Jasmine! To not try and direct out brother or sister with love and kindness would be selfish on our part. Love is helping your friend seek salvation. God bless you, TMG

  36. jnotemusic14

    Posted by jnotemusic14 on April 7, 2015 at 13:09

    I agree…..well, mostly.
    As for saying we have no right to “judge”;

    James 5: 19-20: “My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.”

    Pslam 37:30 “The mouths of the righteous utter wisdom, and their tongues speak what is just.”

    We cannot give those who partake in homosexual activity the impression that it is right to be homosexual, or that we think it is right. Now, before you think I’m going all hate-crazy, I never said anything about letting them know hatefully. In fact, we are called to love others like you mentioned in the article.

    But are we really loving them if we give them the impression that it is okay? Especially by telling them its okay to be PROUD of it? Nobody should be proud of their sin.

    Leviticus 18:22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.”

    The Bible says that homosexuality is detestable. Let me repeat; The Bible, (A.K.A. not me), says that homosexuality is detestable

    Here’s another one;
    Romans 1:26-28
    26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

    28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

    This says that homosexuality is vile. It also says that they didn’t “think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God”. In other words, they didn’t want to hear that it was wrong. Oh, and guess who said this? Paul, the apostle. Was he judging? Or was he just telling them the truth (out of love) because he didn’t want them to face the consequences of their sins and he wanted them to come out of their sin?

    Don’t think I’m hating, because I’m not. Most of the stuff I’m speaking about has come from scripture, so I’m just sharing the Gospel. Also, I do agree that we shouldn’t be hateful and cruel to homosexuals, because that’s wrong. But I do believe that we should tell them in a loving and kind manner that what they are doing is wrong, and that they need to repent. Same goes for all other sins, really, and it’s not just pin-pointed on homosexuals. For any sin people should be held accountable. The only reason that it seems like homosexuality stands out is because it’s a very popular/hot topic that’s being debated.

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by 17puppies on April 8, 2015 at 18:20

      Thank you so much for saying that! That is exactly how I felt and you summed it up fantastically! This is kinda a dangerous topic but I don’t know if I’ve ever heard someone say it so well, so thanks!

    • Project Inspired

      Posted by lyudababs on April 8, 2015 at 15:59

      I agree with your idea completely. I even heard a sermon on this. There is a difference between judging and condemning. And there are two different types of judging, one of them making assumptions, the other helping the person realize that what they are doing is a sin and helping them find their way out of it. Condemning is a BIG no-no for us Christians because only God can condemn us to heaven or hell. That’s off our charts as Christians. The problem with people who respond to the helpful judging as judging is that they obviously don’t take constructive criticism very well.

      However, I have personal experience with just stepping back, giving the person some space, and letting them know I’m here to help if they need it. That’s when the person starts to think and when they break down, I’m still there. Brought one of my friends out of her depression like that after a bad break up, praise God.

      Yes, I do agree homosexuality is a sin, but so is lying and stealing and talking back to your parents. We don’t make such a big fuss out of those like homosexuality has become. Still, condemning someone to hell because they’re gay only brings condemner down, too.

      Sorry it was a long ramble. I just want people to know the difference between biblical judging and judging as to how most people perceive it.

    • BekahBlue32

      Posted by BekahBlue32 on April 8, 2015 at 14:26

      I agree with you; though this article did speak some truth about loving them instead of alienating them, but you make a point that I was sadden to not see in this article and that is if we love people- we will not tell them what they are doing is something to be proud of or feel okay about. We speak truth in love in hopes that in doing so it would bring them back from their folly. And, as you said, it does include every other sin- not just homosexuality. I’m so glad also you based all of these things on sound evidence- the Word of God- because it is Truth and no one can say you’re just expressing you’re opinion without reason or proof to back it up. If I could I would high five you right now. Anyways, thank you Jasmine for your comment, it made me smile 🙂 and no matter what negative reply you may get after this, just know that what you said was truth from Him and nothing can shake that.

    • cowlover

      Posted by cowlover on April 8, 2015 at 13:54

      I really appreciate your take on this. I feel like you do. We need to love everyone, and speak the truth in love to fellow believers. Homosexual behavior is just like any other sin, and the only reason that it’s getting more debate than other sins is because of the media and nonbelievers making it a different situation entirely than is outlined in the Bible. Knowing that homosexual behavior is wrong, yet still participating in it, is a sin. Just like lying, stealing, adultery, etc. If a Christian said that they knew adultery was a sin, yet still committed that sin, other Christians would be concerned. But when a homosexual states that they know it’s a sin in the Bible but still choose to not do anything about it, some of them applaud it and say that they should be proud. That just seems wrong to me, and unloving when we know the truth but are too “politically correct” to say anything. But, just like we love other sinners, we still love them. Again, I just want to thank you for your comment. 🙂

    • mynameisrobin

      Posted by mynameisrobin on April 8, 2015 at 13:38

      you’re so right! That’s exactly what I wanted to say.

    • Favourchichi

      Posted by Favourchichi on April 8, 2015 at 12:27

      I agree with you 100%. Everything that you just said is everything I would say. We need to as Christians in a Godly nature tell homosexuals that what they are doing is wrong. We don’t hate the sinner, we hate the sin. When people give examples about how the woman adulter and the woman at the well were sinful people and Jesus still approached them with love, we often forget the part when he says, “Go and sin no more.” To one extreme we completely dismiss homosexuals. To another we tell them it’s ok and to embrace their sexuality. Neither is pure. One is either dismissing both sin and sinner, the other is accepting both sin and sinner. Though we need to approach them with love, we need to also make it clear to them where God stands and where we stand with the word of God. We cannot compromise the word for the sake of making people more comfortable. As “harsh” as it sounds and I know that it is, it’s true.

      • tmgaouette

        Posted by tmgaouette on April 9, 2015 at 11:40

        And to your point, if we tell them it’s okay or to be “proud” of their sin, are we not contributing to it also? Are we not “causing our brothers to stumble”? Thanks for your comment, blessings, TMG

    • Trinity

      Posted by Trinity on April 8, 2015 at 11:52

      I would like to discuss your response with you. I don’t want to argue, but I would like to give you a few thoughts on it. Since the first two passages you referenced would only count if you believe homosexuality to be a sin and those who practice it unrighteous, I’m going to skip those.
      While the verse in Leviticus is indeed saying that homosexuality is a sin, it also says in the same chapter that having sex with a woman who is having her period is a sin (vs. 19). In the next chapter it says “You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material” (Lev 19:19) and ” You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard.” (Lev 19:27). That’s because Leviticus primarily consists of laws given from God to the Israelites, specifically for their culture. While there are some laws in there that make sense morally such as “You shall do no injustice in court” (Lev 19:15), “You shall not hate your brother in your heart” (Lev 19:17), and “None of you shall approach any one of his close relatives to uncover nakedness” (Lev 18:6) obviously not all of them are a moral dilemma in our modern day and shouldn’t be applied as such.
      Next to talk about the Romans passage. I’ll admit this is the one I had the most difficulty trying to decipher, since it seems so upfront and obvious. There are several counters I have found for it, though, and I’ll walk through a couple of them.
      a)The use of the word ‘unnatural’ would imply that the men and women in question had had relations with the opposite sex previously and were betraying the way that God had made them as heterosexual people in order to pursue pure sex with the same sex. I would say that it’s just as unnatural to expect a homosexual person to have sex with the opposite sex as themselves. Of course, this discussion only applies if you believe that a person’s sexual orientation is their true nature and not a choice they made.
      B)The key focus in this passage is on the lust and sex. While homosexual do have sex with the same sex and experience sexual attraction, that is different from blindly having relations with everyone and giving into your lust.
      C)This passage is written by Paul. I know that the Bible is inspired by God, but God’s will was still interpreted and written down by a man with certain life experiences living in a certain time and place for other people with certain life experiences living in a certain time and place. Due to the time and the religious background Paul also says “Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him,” (1 Corinthians 11:14). Of course, it’s the definition of ‘natural’ for men to have long hair, as, if not cut, hair grows. Paul also condones slavery by saying “: “Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ” (Eph 6:5). Now, I’m not saying Paul was wrong, just that the type of slavery then was different. Slavery to Paul would have meant a person who is forced to work for someone to whom they owe a debt, like an indentured servant. Of course, taken out of context, this passage was used to justify slavery for many years. It’s the same with Romans. In the time when it was written homosexuality was associated with relations between grown married men and young boys or slaves, and was purely sexual. This is not comparative to a monogamous relationship between two single, adult people who love each other.
      On your side note about “not finding it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God” I agree with what you’re saying on it, but once again, a romantic relationship is not comparable to a purely sexual one. Once reading the scripture, praying, and looking into commentaries on the subject (which I believe to be a part of that “retaining the knowledge of God”) I’ve noticed that Jesus, who had plenty to say about political issues of his day (from taxation to tithing to prostitution) has nothing to say at all about homosexuality and I think the silence is the most glaring statement he could have made. With that and these passages in mind I’ve come to the belief that in a modern context homosexuality is not sinful.
      I’m not trying to be rude, just share a different perspective, and feel free to reply.

      • jnotemusic14

        Posted by jnotemusic14 on April 9, 2015 at 19:07

        Thank you for the response. Since I am not the best fit for this question, I offer you a link to answer the part about Jesus not referencing homosexuality in the Bible;

        http://www.missionamerica.com/articletext.php?artnum=257

        I found what this person said to be along the lines of what I was thinking, at least the first part that said;

        “Jesus is never quoted in the New Testament as having directly addressed rape, incest, domestic violence or homosexual behavior. So are we supposed to believe all these practices are okay with Him?”

        Also, referencing your statement about believing homosexuality is a part of someone’s nature, I’ll re-post what I replied to someone else. This just touches up on those points briefly.
        ~
        “I don’t believe there is any scientific proof that people are “born homosexual”. In fact, there was a study done on two identical twins to see whether or not homosexuality was genetic. One twin was homosexual and one was not. Both had the same genes. Here’s the link if you want to check it out;

        http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/identical-twin-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic

        And I could say the same thing about adultery. A married man could find someone attractive that wasn’t his wife and “fall in love with her”, and he could say “well, I can’t choose who I love” but that doesn’t make it right or acceptable. Same thing with pedophiles. They can’t choose who they love, right? So why is it not okay for them to love children but it’s okay for a man to love another man, or a woman to love another woman? You should also look at some of the scriptures CandyBar and I posted about this topic of judging everyone always brings up all the time. there’s a difference between righteous judging and the judging of man.”
        ~
        As for the other things, I’ll admit I don’t know. I wish I could say I have the best answer for you, but I’m genuinely stumped on those aspects. But I will definitely do some research on that to see what I can come up with. Again, none of these posts I’m making are in any way supposed to be hateful, I’m just trying to profess what the Bible states both in the New Testament and the Old.

      • carolinereinhart1

        Posted by carolinereinhart1 on April 9, 2015 at 11:59

        Hi, Trinity. First of all, I would like to apologize for any harassment you have received in life for being homosexual. I understand that it must have made you feel very hurt inside for being treated so horribly. I do not condone such hateful actions. Second of all, I would like to say that we do not choose our temptations and struggles, they are brought before us by Satan and made positive by Christ. On a personal level, the devil has cursed me with a serious brain tumor. I am awaiting Christ’s restoration and healing, should He choose that is the best path. Otherwise, I am waiting for his strength, as it is something in which I lack. Thirdly, you are right. Homosexuality is not always about lust, it is about feelings for another person. However, with that in mind, even if you do not lust a married person, is it right to have a romantic feeling for them? I feel like that is coveting, but I might be totally wrong about that, so ignore it if you wish.
        Anyway, I would like to discuss your comment. As far as Christ not saying anything about homosexuality, I do not recall him uttering a word about child molestation, but I doubt it is something He is alright with it. I also disagree with your statement about Paul condoning slavery. That is quite the opposite of the truth. If you read the book of Philemon, it is a letter from Paul to a slave owner about one of his slaves. This slave ran away and managed to meet Paul, who lead him to redemption. Later, Paul sent the slave back to his master because he ran away, even though the circumstances were unjust. However, Paul also sent the master, who happened to be a Christian, a letter that requested that he not punish the slave, but rather accept him as a brother of Christ. Furthermore, I encourage you to read 1 Timothy 1: 9-11, where Paul calls out slave trading as well as other things I believe that you would agree are wrong.
        I am not going to say that I am better than you in terms of sin. I AM BEYOND FLAWED!!. Whatever you decide about your sexuality, I will not judge as that is not my right. I personally do not agree that it is morally correct, but I do acknowledge that is a difficult thing to endure. However, I can not stay silent about about God’s word being misinterpreted. It is a pet peeve of mine and I speak against it when I can. I hope you understand and I apologize if I came off too strong.

    • Abby4Him

      Posted by Abby4Him on April 8, 2015 at 11:38

      Amen, being proud of overcoming sin is one thing but pride in something the Bible clearly states as wrong is not okay. It is completely possible for you to be loving and still be able to gently tell someone that they are sinning.

    • Aryandil

      Posted by Aryandil on April 8, 2015 at 10:09

      That’s not what the article said at all.