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Juanita11

Juanita11

I know this argument has been had. But I am very confused and am trying to understand why God, the god of love, would say there is anything wrong with love between two people no matter. gender.
The only actual argument I have heard is that it’s unnatural. But I can’t accept that because my hair is sage green, so is my hair choice a sin? If everything that is unnatural a sin. Or else it’s like God is saying that only certain unnatural things are a sin.
All cards on the table, I am currently experiencing very strong feelings for another girl and nothing about it feels unnatural. It feels like the times I have had guys only less awkward.
I just don’t get it and was hoping that I could see both sides of the argument and try to piece it together. I am tearing myself to pieces trying to understand what is wrong with me, and why I have to go through this. If he is the God of love then isn’t any love from him?

October 30, 2016 at 00:12
theteenfashionista

theteenfashionista

i have homosexual tendencies too. But what homosexuality is is sex that is outside of God’s standards. ANY sex outside of a marriage between a man and a woman is unrighteous.
That said, my dad says homosexuality is simply God’s call to singleness. That you don’t feel attraction to the opposite sex. What homosexuality really is is a desire for friendship. But just keep it at the friendship level πŸ™‚

October 30, 2016 at 09:03
theteenfashionista

theteenfashionista

But I DO want you to know that if you are homosexually attracted, then do NOT feel bad or guilty: GOD made you that way, and for a purpose. Every story can end in his glory πŸ˜€

October 30, 2016 at 09:16
rainbowuni

rainbowuni

I’m sorry you’ve been forced to feel guilty for having the feelings you have. This is one of my major problems with religion as a whole–no one should feel guilty for feeling a certain way. It’s not just religion, either–society’s attitude towards certain things definitely plays a part–but in the case of homosexuality, society as a whole has certainly become much more accepting over the last few years.
Anyway, I never want you to feel like something is wrong with you. Listen, NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOU. No matter what you decide you believe about God’s beliefs, please always know that nothing is wrong with you.

Now, you brought up a good point about what unnatural things are okay vs. not okay. Hair dye: obviously very few people have a problem with it. Makeup: very few have a problem with it. Computers, cars, internet, cell phones, the houses we live in, electricity, etc…no problem.
Attraction to someone of the same sex that comes from a completely natural place inside of you that you cannot control: problem.
It makes no sense to me…but that’s true about a lot of religion topics for me so maybe take that with a grain of salt, I dunno.

Ultimately, to somewhat build on what theteenfashionista said, if we can choose or make up an explanation for why these things happen to make ourselves feel better about something (that may not have the explanation you’re looking for), the explanation I’d choose would be that maybe homosexuality is God’s call to be strong enough to overcome the adversity (and not give into the pressure to believe that something is inherently wrong with you).

October 30, 2016 at 10:39
theteenfashionista

theteenfashionista

And Juanita, If you do decide to be homosexual, be it, but you have sacrificed your relationship with God for a relationship with another person. Homosexuality is simply a perverted way that grows off friendship.

October 30, 2016 at 11:23
rainbowuni

rainbowuni

^I would argue that it’s not a choice–the only part that’s a choice is choosing between happiness and believing something is wrong with you.

October 30, 2016 at 11:44
AdventureGirl

AdventureGirl

I don’t think accepting and acting on homosexuality means you sacrifice your relationship with God. There’s a lot to be said about homosexuality and the term/meaning of it, as well as it possibly/likely being misinterpreted within scripture.

If you want some articles on homosexuality from a more positive perspective, look up “unfundamentalist Christian + homosexuality”. It’s a really good blog with a lot of different perspectives.

Ultimately I think you have to decide for yourself. I would be wary of accepting something just because a popular pastor or “conventional” Christian beliefs say it’s wrong.

Research it carefully, pray about it, and then decide for yourself.

October 30, 2016 at 11:59
theteenfashionista

theteenfashionista

^^^^^ Yes You decide. But homosexuals cannot be Christians:
” Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen

“9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will…”
Those are all lifestyles dishonoring to God and, being a homosexual isn’t, to God, any different than being a prostitute. It’s all sexual immorality to God.

this is more on homosexuality

October 30, 2016 at 12:34
Wolfsmaedchen

Wolfsmaedchen

What I always keep in mind is that homosexuality looked a little different back then than it does nowadays. For example in Greece in antiquity, pederasty was very common, meaning adult men had sexual relationships with young men and boys. Gay or lesbian people living together just like normal married couples were not really common. Instead, many men had their young companions, although they were married, had kids etc. Homosexuality wasn’t some kind of lifestyle or identity, but rather just the sexual act with somebody of the same sex.

And yes, I think that pederasty is/was a sin. First, because many of those men were married and therefore committed adultery. And second, the young boys, who were not married yet, were having sex outside a committed relationship, which is kind of a sin, too. Finally, it’s a form of pedophilia and hebephilia; many of these boys weren’t adults yet, and I think that pedophilia and hebephilia are sins when people execute them.

However, I, personally, don’t have a problem when consenting adults have a respectful, committed homosexual relationship. But I understand that other people do interpret the bible in a different way, and that’s okay. .

October 30, 2016 at 13:25
rainbowuni

rainbowuni

@theteenfashionista
I’m not gonna argue here (we can argue it out on our argue thread if you want) but I would advise against judging people as Christian or not Christian.

October 30, 2016 at 14:42
AdventureGirl

AdventureGirl

^What she said πŸ˜‰ Being a Christian is simply about believing in Jesus, you don’t have to perform any actions, because Jesus has already done everything. There’s simply nothing left for you to do.

As @Wolf said, homosexuality historically was connected to pedophilia, which is sinful and obviously a hurtful, unhealthy relationship, which is why one should take no part in it.

Love between 2 people of the same gender does not have any obvious harm in it, which is why I would be careful to not judge it without a lot of careful research and thought.

This is actually a really interesting topic, so I created a thread for it: “Homosexuality and Christianity”.

October 30, 2016 at 16:56
theteenfashionista

theteenfashionista

“Being a Christian is simply about believing in Jesus, you don’t have to perform any actions, because Jesus has already done everything. ”
Um, no. “If you love me, you will follow my commands” says Jesus. So Jesus HAS commands which he wants us to follow.

“As @Wolf said, homosexuality historically was connected to pedophilia, which is sinful and obviously a hurtful, unhealthy relationship, which is why one should take no part in it.”
No. If God had meant pedastry, don’t you think he would have said so? And there’s more on homosexuality. Just look at the link.

“Love between 2 people of the same gender does not have any obvious harm in it, which is why I would be careful to not judge it without a lot of careful research and thought.”
The only research I need to do is the Bible. And the Bible makes it clear that anyone who is homosexual is no longer a Christian.
To choose a lifestyle that rebels against God’s command is saying that you value the pleasure to be obtained from homosexual relationships more than the joy that is in God. Therefore, by not obeying his commands, you care more about your own pleasure than God.
I know this is unpopular, but it’s not an opinion. It is the Biblical truth. To God, pedophila, pedastry, homosexuality, adultery, prostitution and any other form of sexual immorality is simply wrong. anything outside of God’s plan of one man, one woman is wrong now.

Finally Juanita, it is your choice. You know you can’t live as both Christian and homosexual. Who do you love more–the world’s approval, or God’s?

October 31, 2016 at 12:09
MacDawn1999

MacDawn1999

http://www.projectinspired.com/girl-talk/topic/im-christian-and-gay-those-2-words-can-coexist/

Boom. Mic Drop. Lol jk

October 31, 2016 at 12:22
AdventureGirl

AdventureGirl

No seriously McDawn, that’s perfect. Thanks for sharing!

October 31, 2016 at 12:23
Wolfsmaedchen

Wolfsmaedchen

Well, it would be interesting to have some historical linguists here πŸ™‚ As they could take a look at the greek version of the new testament and then we could see which word they use for homosexualiy and then they could tell use how it was used and what exactly it meant. πŸ™‚

October 31, 2016 at 12:48
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