A Message From PI Founder, Nicole:

I want to remind you that God created you for a huge purpose, and He WILL use you to build His kingdom! You are meant to shine!

How to know God.

 

I love…..

This topic contains 17 replies, has 9 voices, and was last updated by  carolinereinhart1 1 year, 5 months ago.

Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 18 total)
Author Posts
carolinereinhart1

carolinereinhart1

EVERYONE! But that doesn’t mean I agree. To help you understand,
https://poetrypoliticspeople.wordpress.com/2015/06/27/same-sex-marriage-and-my-reaction/
https://poetrypoliticspeople.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/love-what-is-it/
https://poetrypoliticspeople.wordpress.com/2015/06/23/confederate-flag/
Jesus loved everyone, but He didn’t always share their beliefs. That’s how I am, too. It’s okay if you don’t agree with me, but please don’t say that people who don’t share your views “bigots”, “idiots”, or other bad names. It’s just wrong. We are all entitled to our opinion, but we are not entitled to disrespect that of others. Anyone else feel that way?

June 27, 2015 at 14:51
loveoutloud

loveoutloud

Right, let’s keep this discussion respectful, haha. Remember, we all love one another here, so let’s debate and discuss, not argue. c:

That said, I think that the blog article you linked pertaining to same-sex marriage is skewed. First of all, she talks about STD risks. You know what? The AIDS risk is almost the exact same as it would be for a heterosexual couple. I don’t know as much about other STDs, but I find this stereotype (and yes, it is a stereotype, because it’s simply not true, just assumed by people who haven’t been educated about AIDS and HIV) to be a bit sickening.
Also, she keeps talking about how she is ‘worried for them.’ Why are you any more worried about happy couples in a mostly safe, first-world country? Why are you obsessing about their safety rather than worrying about the Christians in other countries who are being tortured and skinned alive for their beliefs? The starving children? The people living under dictators? It just seems silly to me, and just… it comes across as fake to me. The entire article comes across as fake, mother-hennish, and just an excuse for not liking them because of being a christian. If she came straight out and said, “hey, I don’t agree because of my beliefs,” in a respectful manner, then, awesome! But-
*cuts off own rant*
ANYWAYS yeah, so I don’t agree with those articles.

What I do agree with is the legalization. I don’t know how I feel about same sex couples, but the constitution clearly states that there is a separation of church and state. And not everyone believes like we do. Paul says very clearly, several times in his letters, that non-believers cannot be held to the same standards we can. It may not have been a good move from a christian standpoint, but from a fair and legal standpoint, it’s a day to be celebrated.

June 27, 2015 at 15:09
carolinereinhart1

carolinereinhart1

I wrote those articles and I did plenty of research prior to writing. I did research before even forming an opinion on the issue. Nothing was fake. Sorry that you didn’t like the article, though. 🙁

June 27, 2015 at 15:47
rainbowuni

rainbowuni

If you did research, you should only know that the increased risk for HIV and other STDs is only prevalent among gay males, and for that reason should not have a problem with gay females, correct?
And you should also know the reason why there is an increased risk for STD transmission among gay males, correct? And you know that they can be prevented with proper education (rather than scare tactics like “just don’t do it ‘cause it’s dangerous.”), correct?
And you should also know that people of color also have a higher risk for STDs, therefore, by the same reasoning, should be discouraged from sexual relationships as well, correct?
And you also know that travelling to some countries, particularly ones in Africa, coincide with an increased risk of several potentially deadly diseases as well, and therefore should be discouraged, if not illegal, according to the same reasoning, correct?
Good for you for doing research! But it seems to me that the only reason you presented was on STD risk, which, in my opinion, isn’t particularly valid…why is it valid to you?

(And if you’re worried about violence people commit against LGBT people, I’m sure you’re aware of this, but you can’t blame the LGBT people for that—and you’re not helping the cause by not accepting them for who they are (though I do appreciate your commitment to remaining civil/friendly towards LGBT people).)

Another thing, you said “How are you not afraid that people will look at you and judge you based on who your lips touch and not who your life will touch?” …I just want to point out that I’m pretty sure most LGBT people are afraid of being judged for this reason (along with the violence reason above^), and it’s the reason “the closet” exists, and the reason so many people are afraid to come out—it’s just that a lot of people get tired of living in fear and would rather take a risk and be happy (and not care what other people think about them) than live their lives hiding who they really are in order to fit into societal norms.

June 27, 2015 at 16:47
carolinereinhart1

carolinereinhart1

@rainbowuni I don’t blame them for the crimes committed against them, and I never will. But I can’t compromise my beliefs just because others don’t like them. I’m sorry, but it’s true. And I know that you aren’t going to change your beliefs either, and that’s fine. I just wanted to offer my perspective on things since everyone else was. You’re entitled to your opinion and freedom of speech, I’m entitled to mine. As long as no one is being hateful and calling each other names, I don’t see the problem in voicing an opinion. You can say what you want, but please don’t tell me that I can’t. We both have good intentions, we just have different perspectives.

June 27, 2015 at 20:02
Celby

Celby

The death of America….

June 27, 2015 at 20:29
rainbowuni

rainbowuni

@caroline I never said you couldn’t have your opinion. But I would like to know why it is that you have that opinion? Because it just sounds to me like you disagree with being gay simply because other people disagree with it (and might choose to express their disagreement violently)…am I just misunderstanding? What *are* your beliefs (about this issue)?
And I’m sure you know this as well, but just as you can’t compromise your beliefs just because other people might not like them, gay people cannot change who they’re attracted to just to fit your beliefs.

@Celby No, I think the death of America happened a long time ago, when they outlawed slavery. How dare they treat people equally; if I can’t own another human, am I really free?

June 27, 2015 at 20:44
carolinereinhart1

carolinereinhart1

@rainbowuni Well, this wouldn’t be relevant in your opinion, but there are a lot of Bible verses that speak against it. So that’s one reason. Another is that I believe that if an action has a risk of hurting you or another person, then it’s wrong. For instance, since drinking while driving can lead to you or another person being killed or seriously injured, it’s wrong. As well as texting while driving.
Maybe they can’t change who they’re attracted to, but maybe they could change their outlook about how they feel about this person. There are lots of ways to show love to people. You don’t have to get married or be intimate to show love. Just supporting someone and being their friend is showing love.

June 28, 2015 at 21:05
Juanita11

Juanita11

To quote Blimeycow :
“Abortion, Gay marriage, Obama ,Halo is better than Call of Duty. ”
Anyone get the reference… No… Okay… °~° Lol trying to lighten the mood .

June 28, 2015 at 21:35
rainbowuni

rainbowuni

@Caroline Okay, I can understand if you have religious beliefs against it. But to say that anything that could possibly cause harm is wrong…would be to say that everything is wrong. It’s not just drinking and driving or texting and driving that is dangerous, it’s all driving (as well as being around cars at all), as all driving poses some risk, right? Just like it’s not just same-sex relationships that have a risk of STDs (and again, that’s only in males, and gay females actually have a reduced risk), it’s all sexual relationships (on another note, there’s no risk of unintended pregnancy in a same-sex relationship, so there’s that).
Going to third-world countries to help impoverished youth poses health risks, therefore it’s wrong, correct?
Simply living puts you at risk for being harmed, therefore it’s wrong, correct?

My method of determining if something is wrong is a little different: Harm is, of course, bad. But if you (and/or all parties involved) are consenting, it isn’t wrong. For example, if I wanted to travel to a third-world country, and I know the risks involved and am okay with it, it’s not wrong.
…but if I force you to go to the same country, and you aren’t okay with the risks, that’s not okay.

So…to me, what you’re saying sounds like, if I wanted to go skydiving, and you said to me, “No! Skydiving is wrong, 0.0007% of people that go skydiving die from it! Even if you can’t change the fact that you want to go skydiving, you can change your outlook on the want to do it. Skydiving is wrong. If you really want to go skydiving, just throw a camera out a plane and record the video, and then watch it—you don’t have to actually jump out of the plane to be skydiving.” I’d understand your disapproval if I wanted to push you out of a plane, but I have the right to make that decision for myself, right?

@Juanita Halo is so NOT better than COD! *blah blah blah argue argue* 😀

June 28, 2015 at 22:46
Juanita11

Juanita11

Gay marriage is such a grey area for me.. I used to have my opinion then I watched shows with gay couples and they are just trying to be happy and they aren’t hurting anyone so why would God say it’s wrong? I understand he said it was wrong, but why? I may be qualified as a bad christian but why, really? If I was not christian I wouldn’t care.
But there is also, if someone I had never met told me that I could not marry someone, I would tell them to go to Hell (Montana (;) so I don’t think that I should be able to make that choice for them .It is between lovers and God. Not lovers and me. I believe that if God had wanted people not to make decisions for them selves, then Adam and Eve would have never eaten that apple to give us free will.
There’s no black and white with this. Grey.

June 28, 2015 at 23:46
Broken Vessel

Broken Vessel

^ I’m with you, Juanita.
I’ll take the title of a ”bad Christian” if that’s what it makes me.

Come on, ladies. You know there’s some pretty F’d up stuff in the Bible. You’re considered to be cursed just for being born Black -_-
There are Bible verses that specifically speak on slavery, too, so that obviously means God was not happy about freedom, right?
“…And with the very curse he became black and the blackness was transmitted to his descendents…. And he said, ‘Cursed be Canaan! A servant of servants shall he be to his brothers.”

So again, I am against discrimination. And if that makes me a bad Christian, then so be it.

June 29, 2015 at 08:02
AdventureGirl

AdventureGirl

Juanita~Lol I LOVE BlimeyCow!

BrokenVessel~ What Bible verse says that? Reference please 🙂

June 29, 2015 at 08:10
Lovegodlovelife

Lovegodlovelife

personally, I think even if we don’t agree with their choices, we should extend love to them. I also think that I would never have a relationship like that, because of my personal beliefs, but that doesn’t mean that if the general public in the USA decides “let’s make this legal” then we have no right to say “no way” since this is a democracy after all (or at least it should be). Just my opinion 🙂

June 29, 2015 at 13:49
carolinereinhart1

carolinereinhart1

@rainbowuni So if a bunch of friends got together and consented to go to a party and drink and have consensual, unprotected sex, then it would be okay, correct?
And yes, I am aware that there are many risks in life and that life is a risk. Seriously, we should talk about my life story, I am a walking risk! But that is out of our control. What we can control is how many risks and to what degree of a risk we are willing to make.
And, frankly, I don’t see how it’s loving or kind or accepting of me to encourage others to take a risk that could have horrible consequences. Even if it does give them pleasure. Pleasure and happiness are so temporary. Humans are naturally never fully satisfied in life. So, if I know that something that makes my loved one happy, but could potentially hurt them, then how could I claim that I cared if I wasn’t concerned about their safety? I don’t feel that I could say that and be truthful. Not saying that supporters of the issue don’t care, but this is my POV.

June 30, 2015 at 21:14
Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 18 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.