I can’t take it anymore. I cannot handle how worldly PI is. Whatever happened to Christian values??? Now on PI, it’s ok to be gay. I even saw an article about how we should accept it. Since when is accepting sin ok? It’s not! Abortion is ok. Since when is killing someone ok? It’s not. Are you supposed to judge someone? No. That’s Gods job. But are you just supposed to conform to this world of sin? NO! But PI and some of its members have and I can’t support that. To those who actually believe everything the Bible says and wants to obey him and not argue with Him and his principles that he’s laid to help you, kudos to you. To those who are so hung ho on bending the rules for “rights” and “choices”, you’re going against the Bible and God, and that reflects bad on all Christians, the body of Christ. I shouldn’t have to come on a Christian sight prepared to not let ALOT of worldly views affect me. That says something really bad about this site. I should be able to come on and grow into a better Christian, not grow into a conformed worldly thinker. So that’s my opinion, and I know everyone else has theirs. But I’m gonna choose to live my life in a 100% Godly way. Obeying Him and His rules and not the worlds. I hope everyone else will be open to doing the same because that’s honestly how God wants it.
|May 30, 2015 at 10:00|
I’ve felt this way before. But I found that it really HAS made me grow as a Christian, like enormously! #1, because of all the differing opinions, I was forced to THINK about why I believed something and back it up. #2. It changed my viewpoints on certain things I thought were Christian, but really weren’t (such as purity culture and modesty).
Also keep in mind that PI is on the good old World Wide Web, so anyone can come one here, Christian or not.
|May 30, 2015 at 10:29|
I clicked on this not realizing who posted it, but I now I really feel a call to reply to this since it seems to be thrown at me.
1.) This isn’t a private site. It’s PUBLIC. Anyone can come on here, read, and comment. That’s one of the joys of it. It helps spread the love of God to people who probably wouldn’t have seen it before. Isn’t that amazing? That someone whose depressed can click on the recent article on depression this site did and come to a site that feels them with God’s love for them? I find that wonderful.
2.) Christian or not, not everyone is going to agree on everything. Seriously, it’s impossible. Everyone thinks and feels differently. No two people will agree on anything wether they disagree on something big or small. This site is full of a diverse family of girls who discuss and debate their views and beliefs. That’s how people grow.
3.) Want to know the number one thing that gives Christians a bad rap? Judgement. Plain old judgement. Stemming anywhere from “The bible says what you are is wrong” to the extreme of “You’re going to hell”. All that judgement makes Christians look bad. Don’t believe me? Look at any of the comments on FB news articles. “Ireland Legalizes Marriage in Popular Vote”. Comments: As a Christian I am DISGUSTED. That’s so GROSS. Ireland is now going to HELL. Etc.
Comments like that sometimes make me question why I want to be a Christian.
4.) Whats sad is that I’ve seen many people leave this site because of the opposite. They don’t feel welcome anymore because all they got was hate. You’re spreading hate right now with this thread. If you’re dissappointed with the site, okay. Don’t bring in other people like the Gay Christians who have come on this site to feel the love of God, only to get hate from people like you.
5.) I am a Christian because I love God. God loves me just as much. My relationship with him is strong, even with my views of pro-choice and pro-gay marriage. You don’t know the people on this site’s relationship with God. You don’t know their faith. You don’t know their love for God. Those things make up a Christian. Not modesty, purity, or heterosexuality.
|May 30, 2015 at 11:56|
It wasn’t directed just at you. And I see you didn’t acknowledge my point that we aren’t suppose to judge. I’m fully aware that everyone can’t agree on everything. But their is a right and a wrong with everything. And the Bible gives us clear principles to follow. I may not know people’s relationship with God, but I’ve seen their views on things, and they don’t line up with the Bible or how God intended them to be. There’s way too many shades of gray in the world. Wrong is wrong, and right is right. Whether we agree on what’s wrong or right is up for debate, but I will always follow what the Bible, the true word of God, says is wrong and right.
|May 30, 2015 at 12:54|
@McKayla Denise There is more to Christianity than the bible. There are countries where people can’t read, yet they know God. They love God. They have a relationship with God. Follow everything in the bible if you please, but that doesn’t make you any better of a Christian than me or anyone else.
1 Peter 4:10
^Theres a line I love from the bible. You definitely aren’t following it by mentioning the sites Gay Christians and Pro-Choicers. Don’t grumble. Just offer hospitality to everyone on this site EVEN IF they don’t follow your same views.
|May 30, 2015 at 13:06|
I have no problem whatsoever with people. I have problem with sin being accepted. I’m not even saying sin itself because we all sin, everybody sins. Having premarital sex is a sin but I did it anyway. But I’m not gonna sit here and say “I have sinned. Accept my sin.” No, it’s sin that shouldn’t be accepted and glorified, not the people. That’s like me saying I’m not gonna like you because you poop. Everyone poops, but I’m not gonna accept you pooping on my floor. You can stay, I’m not gonna judge you, but the poop, has gotta go. That was a terrible analogy but I hope that I got my point across. As a Christian I feel I love everyone but I and that’s exactly why I don’t agree with the sin they commit. How is it bad to want someone to obey God?
|May 30, 2015 at 13:25|
Saying that they don’t obey God is judging them. Who are you to say that aren’t obeying God? For all you know, they do obey God. I obey God by using my talents to help glorify him. God calls on everyone to do different things. If God calls upon me to go to another country and teach his words, I’ll obey.
Not all God’s commands come from the bible. Not all he wants from us comes from there. God knows we are all unique and calls upon us to obey different things for him. He know what he asks of one person, isn’t right for another.
|May 30, 2015 at 13:36|
So if I don’t agree with the typical, cookie cutter, republican, conservative, homonegative, no-choice view of Christianity I’m “worldly minded” and ”make Christians look bad”? … but you don’t? Oh, okay.
And throwing shade by making a public post isn’t very mature.
|May 30, 2015 at 13:36|
And just because I have my own beliefs I don’t waver from I’m judgemental? How are you any different from? You have things you believe and accept just like I do? So what’s the argument here? We’re different? That’s been set in stone looks like. You have your views. I have mine. And I’m not throwing shade. I’m very ok with people knowing how I feel and my beliefs whether they agree or not. You accept homosexuality. I don’t. You accept abortion. I don’t. That’s fine. But I’m pretty sure calling me judge mental, is judging.
|May 30, 2015 at 13:47|
@McKayla Denise I’m just trying to get you to understand that claiming that someone you don’t know doesn’t obey God, is rude and judgemental. I have not said an ill word towards you. I haven’t called you any name or made any generalizations of you. I have spoken only of what you have said, and have tried to get you to understand how unfair it is.
Like you said, we will never agree. That is fine. It’s a part of life. I can’t judge you for the decisions you have made and the beliefs you hold. But you also can’t judge me and my beliefs. You can’t say I don’t obey God. You can’t say I make other Christians look bad. You can’t say that because it’s not fair or true.
Like I said before judgement is what makes Christians look bad. If we all loved each other above all sins like God asks of all his children, Christianity wouldn’t be looked down upon in the way it is.
|May 30, 2015 at 13:58|
“You’re going against the Bible and God, and that reflects bad on all Christians, the body of Christ. ” – McKayla.
|May 30, 2015 at 14:02|
How is being homosexual obeying God when he said it’s not right? Stating a fact is not rude or immature. But judging, which I haven’t done, is. Considering how much we disagree I’ve been very civil to you as well. And my post aren’t directly to you. If they were I would address you by your name while talking about you so it would be clearly understood I’m referring to you. But I’m not. My belief is that being homosexual is disobedient to God. I’m sure people don’t agree but they don’t have to agree with me. That’s between them and God. But I do have that opinion I’m allowed to express exactly like everyone has expressed theirs
|May 30, 2015 at 14:04|
I could say the exact same thing about your post too, broken vessel
|May 30, 2015 at 14:06|
Not at all. I’m asking for help with my faith. You are are complaining about PI members having different views than you, and labeling them as ”disappointing”, ”worldly” and ”sinful”.
|May 30, 2015 at 14:15|
@McKayla Denise I have been nothing but civil too even when you haven’t been in my thread. God created homosexuals didn’t he? He know everything and life’s plans for everyone. He knows who they are and their sexuality. How do you know they haven’t discussed their homosexuality with God? How do you know that God hasn’t told them it’s okay? Really, all I’m trying to say is that, you don’t know anyone or their relationship with God. I don’t know how I’m being uncivil to you?
|May 30, 2015 at 14:19|
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