Before you all get up in arms let me explain myself.
I think it’s a woman’s choice to get an abortion. It’s not YOURS or NICOLE’S. It’s hers. If a woman chooses to have an abortion she isn’t forcing you to get one. She isn’t forcing you to sit in the room and watch. It’s her own personal choice for her own situation.
Ladies there’s two things you need to consider when it comes to your call to make abortion illegal.
One, America has a big diversity of religions. There is no set religion for America. Christianity isn’t even the majority anymore. Not all religions find abortion wrong. You can’t make abortion illegal because of your religious beliefs. They may impede on another’s religious beliefs. If someone from a different religion made it illegal to eat beef, it wouldn’t be fair to the rest of us, would it?
It’s because of this that laws are usually tried to be made without the idea of any religion in mind.
Two, more lives will be lost if abortion is illegal. When something can’t be found legally in the U.S many people go to the streets to find it. If women, especially teenage girls, feel desperate to get an abortion and can’t they will go to the streets. Unqualified “doctors” with unsanitary conditions working on these HUMAN BEINGS with little knowledge of what they’re doing.
The loss of young girls to this would be devastating. Women who get abortions are desperate a majority of the time and if you take away their RIGHT to get one, they will commit suicide or get one at a completely unsafe environment.
If you don’t believe in abortion then go right ahead and don’t get one. No one is forcing you. However, you can’t force millions of people, who mainly don’t agree with your view, to follow what you believe. It’s really a personal decision for each woman.
|May 29, 2015 at 13:02|
I’m just going to use this as an opportunity to rant here:
Also, I’ll add that, even if a woman doesn’t get a back-alley abortion, these people are likely not going to make great parents towards the child they don’t even want but were forced to have. This means abuse, and even abandonment, possibly in a dumpster somewhere. It (unfortunately) happens.
There are people who claim to advocate for the life of the child, and say abortion should only be legal in certain circumstances:
|May 29, 2015 at 13:38|
|May 29, 2015 at 13:56|
Everybody does have a choice. It is her choice. God gave us free will. But I do think it should be illegal, because it’s murder. And murder is illegal. It’s a murderers choice to murder. It’s a thiefs choice to steal. Of course everyone has a choice, but that doesn’t mean it should be a legal choice to make. And I know their are certain circumstances that people try to use to “justify” abortion but it is never justifiable. There is ALWAYS other ways to go, especially adoption. And even if the adoption parents turn out to be horrible, the child still has a chance of a good life with God watching over them. There’s no excuse to not give someone a chance to live. I just had a baby and I’m only 16 and yeah it’s hard but sometimes life can’t always be about you. (And when I say you I’m not referring to anyone here I’m referring to a general audience if that makes sense). Abortion should be illegal just like murder and stealing. That’s not taking away a choice, everyone still has the ability to make a choice, but not every choice is right.
|May 29, 2015 at 14:08|
@McKayla Denise the thing is not every religion sees abortion as marriages, some even encourage it if a woman has had the maximum number of children allowed in that religion. Just because Christianity sees it in such a way doesnt mean every religion does. A recent survey showed only a slim 21% identify as Christian in America. You can’t make abortion illegal because you would be unfair to the other 79%.
|May 29, 2015 at 14:35|
@rainbowuni and @Broken Vessel I’m happy to see that some people agree with me. Even the creaters of this site seem to place this evil label on Pro-Choicers never thinking of the consequences of their words and ideas. I have complete respect for others opinions but there are some things that a lot of girls on this site don’t think of.
|May 29, 2015 at 14:38|
@McKayla Denise *murder not marriages
|May 29, 2015 at 15:13|
I lean more towards what @McKaylaDenise said. We are not trying to take away anyone’s free will. That’s the thing that I don’t understand here. If the pro-choice movement is all about people’s rights, then why doesn’t that baby have any rights here. Abe Lincoln said, “Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.” I don’t want anyone here to be killed or anything, but what I’m saying is that what if someone decided that you were not a person and decide to end your life and had a whole group of people to support them? To me, that sounds very similar to slavery.
|May 29, 2015 at 15:57|
The thing is, is that the woman has a right to. Not every woman uses abortion as a get out of jail free card. A lot of the time, they can’t afford to see the doctor every few weeks, prenatal vitamins, and the expenses that come with a pregnancy. Things that if you don’t get can hurt the baby. There are circumstances where carrying the baby can harm the mother. Some women weren’t meant to carry children. They can still get pregnant but there bodies can’t handle the stress of delivery or even of morning sickness and the other aspects of pregnancy.
Slavery and abortion are on completely different spectrums. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT spectrums. I can’t stress that enough. I feel like the fact that you consider the two even remotely similar a bit worrying. I mean that with no ill will, but it seems like this site doesn’t provide the solid facts for you.
You seem to have not commented on my two points on why making abortion illegal is not right. That’s really what this thread is about. Thinking about why you want abortion illegal, then thinking about why it isn’t possible and shouldn’t happen. @carolinereinhart1
|May 29, 2015 at 16:22|
You all do realize that literally 97% of abortions are because of convenience, right? Only 2% is because of the health of the mother and 1% is because of rape or incest.
Pro-lifers aren’t just Christian either. In a recent poll, only 13% of Americans said that they think abortion should be legal in any circumstance. The tides are turning now that we have science on our side.
A child has a distinct heartbeat at 18 days, don’t we use heartbeat to determine when someone is dead or alive? A child is alive in the womb, making abortion murder, plain as day.
Do you know why they called back alley abortions back alley abortions? Because when you went to get one, you entered the doctor’s office through the back door so nobody knew what you were there for.
Don’t worry, Planned Parenthood has a plan for when we make abortion a crime, they’ll “accidentally” give women medication to “miscarry” so your “choice” is still there.
Abortion is an incredibly selfish choice, there is no arguing that. It also negatively affects women and leads to depression and in extreme cases suicide, not to mention guilt.
@McKaylaDenise you are incredibly brave and amazing for choosing life for your baby!
@BrokenVessel, I am so sick of people like you telling me I’m only pro-birth. Give me a break. Children are a gift and they don’t deserve to be killed before they even have a chance to live their lives and children who are already born don’t deserve to experience abuse or neglect. There will always be sin in this world, therefore, things such as abuse and neglect will always be in the world. Since Roe v. Wade was passed, child abuse has gone up, not gone down. I’d like to ask you what is so beautiful about a child have their skulls smashed by tong-like objects as their developing brains seep out of their skull after their legs and arms are ripped off their tiny bodies? I would LOVE to adopt a child, however, I’m only eighteen and cannot adopt a child, thank you very much!
|May 29, 2015 at 16:23|
@Brokenvessel, please tell me what about this is beautiful:
|May 29, 2015 at 16:24|
@BridgetteMarie21 I can’t think of any other way to put this….It’s none of your buisness if someone gets an abortion or not. Wether it’s for convinience or not. You can do what you want with your body and your child when the time comes. No one is forcing you to get an abortion. Literally, all I was sayin that making abortion illegal because of YOUR PERSONAL BELIEFS is neither right or fair.
|May 29, 2015 at 16:34|
Here’s an excerpt from an article
“Abortion has not always been so safe. Between the 1880s and 1973, abortion was illegal in all or most U.S. states, and many women died or had serious medical problems as a result. Women often made desperate and dangerous attempts to induce their own abortions or resorted to untrained practitioners who performed abortions with primitive instruments or in unsanitary conditions. Women streamed into emergency rooms with serious complications – perforations of the uterus, retained placentas, severe bleeding, cervical wounds, rampant infections, poisoning, shock, and gangrene.
Around the world, in countries where abortion is illegal, it remains a leading cause of maternal death. An estimated 68,000 women worldwide die each year from unsafe abortions”
^ Why Abortion should not be illegal. Aka the actual subject of this thread. I want to encourage a conversation on this. One the legal complications of what nearly everyone on this website wants.
@BridgetteMarie21 On the subject of women’s feeling after abortion:
|May 29, 2015 at 16:42|
So if I’m sick of my toddler I can just off them? How heartless are you?
NEWSFLASH! It’s not just Christians who know that abortion is murder, there are plenty agnostic and atheist people who are pro-life.
Darling a little thing called science shows that a child is alive in their mother’s womb, making abortion scientifically murder.
Why don’t you go whine to your fellow feminazis who don’t care what science says?
|May 29, 2015 at 16:43|
@BridgetteMare21 Your comment was extremely rude. I’ve tried my best to be civil and try to start an intelligent conversation about the ramifications of illegal abortion.
“Women who obtain abortions represent every religious affiliation. 13% of abortion patients describe themselves as born-again or Evangelical Christians4; while 22% of U.S. women are Catholic,7 27% of abortion patients say they are Catholics”
Apparently I was wrong. A lot of Christians seem to agree with me on it being their choice considering the 15% + 27% who have gotten abortions.
I am not a feminazi. If you have to result to name calling to get your point across, it makes it less valid immediately. Talk intelligently and civil and we can have a honest to god conversation on this.
There is a huge difference between throwing a toddler out and aborting a fetus. Two completely different scenarios.
|May 29, 2015 at 16:51|
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